This explains a lot....Why GB gets away with holding

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@"Akvike" said:
It's effin holding all the way---why can't they address this in the rules committee.   Have someone cut block Baluga  while the defender has his arms straight up in the air


Honest how can I be engaged to that pos with my arms up here

Your right, it is holding, but if pads are squared up it will never get called.

In TOS you would refit inside, using palms (Tip of the Spear) drive into the solar plexus / cut of his pads and drive his pads up (straightening his spine)...in effect using the opponents pads against him

When you refit to the inside, you can hyperextend their arm and they lose leverage. 
anyway, that the theory

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@"pumpf" said:
I've seen this commentary (or one just like it) before.  Kind of frustrating, because what they do IS holding.  But they've found a way to get around it... and it doesn't help that the refs are in their back pocket, besides.

Me too & danged if I can remember where.
It was a very long and detailed explanation on the technique & what the Vikes had to do to adjust & beat it
In order to do the wrap around & release, they have to be upright, and they do lose leverage
It may have been Griff talking about it

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this was posted on purple thoughts last year.