Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I could see this. I could see him falling and I could see the Vikings taking him. Walker is probably a 5T in the NFL. 12 is a little high for a 5T, but right now, our 5Ts are Tomlinson and Watts.
Watts looked good last year, but did he look good, or did he look good for a former 6th rounder?
I don't think Walker makes it out of the top 6...I have a growing suspicion the Vikings are going DL @ 12. That, Stingley or one of the top 2 ranked WR on their board.
With the new regime and the new scheme, it's hard to know what the Vikings value, and what they think about the current depth chart, but DL is definitely a strong possibility. Still well below corner in terms of need, IMO, but we'll see...
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I could see this. I could see him falling and I could see the Vikings taking him. Walker is probably a 5T in the NFL. 12 is a little high for a 5T, but right now, our 5Ts are Tomlinson and Watts.
Watts looked good last year, but did he look good, or did he look good for a former 6th rounder?
I don't see it. Walker is the highest upside pass rusher in the class, even over Hutchinson. He will go in the top 5. Teams love potential even though he has a higher variance than some others.
Agree he's got a high upside, like all the Dawg DLs. But I'd take Jermaine Johnson over him.
In cramming for the draft the last couple weeks, there have been a few players that have stood out to me as better than advertised...
1st round
Kenny Pickett, QB - I think he's Kirk Cousins 2.0. But a lot faster.
Jermaine Johnson, Edge - Lifts his game to another level when facing quality opponent
Trent McDuffie, DB - A coach on the field. Does everything well. Press, off, man, zone. Almost zero bust factor.
Devin Lloyd, LB - He's going to be an All Pro LB. Probably not for the Vikings though.
Chris Olave, WR - Like JJ, he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he's going to be better in the NFL.
Day two
Kaiir Elam, CB
Kyler Gordong, CB
Nakobe Dean, LB
Leo Chenal, LB
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I could see this. I could see him falling and I could see the Vikings taking him. Walker is probably a 5T in the NFL. 12 is a little high for a 5T, but right now, our 5Ts are Tomlinson and Watts.
Watts looked good last year, but did he look good, or did he look good for a former 6th rounder?
I don't see it. Walker is the highest upside pass rusher in the class, even over Hutchinson. He will go in the top 5. Teams love potential even though he has a higher variance than some others.
Agree he's got a high upside, like all the Dawg DLs. But I'd take Jermaine Johnson over him.
In cramming for the draft the last couple weeks, there have been a few players that have stood out to me as better than advertised...
1st round
Kenny Pickett, QB - I think he's Kirk Cousins 2.0. But a lot faster.
Jermaine Johnson, Edge - Lifts his game to another level when facing quality opponent
Trent McDuffie, DB - A coach on the field. Does everything well. Press, off, man, zone. Almost zero bust factor.
Devin Lloyd, LB - He's going to be an All Pro LB. Probably not for the Vikings though.
Chris Olave, WR - Like JJ, he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he's going to be better in the NFL.
Day two
Kaiir Elam, CB
Kyler Gordong, CB
Nakobe Dean, LB
Leo Chenal, LB
I agree with the majority of your list. I'm very high on Johnson if he can just become a little more consistent. But that is the result of only really playing major snaps a single season. Watching more of McDuffie I'm fairly convinced he is just as good of a fit for the Vikings as Sauce/Stingley. There isn't a drop-off and all are co-equals. I will let you have the benefit of saying that first =)
Another two names to consider are Lewis Cine (he may end up being better than Hamilton) and Arnold Ebiketie. People are sleeping on the latter but he is one of the only pass rushers in the class who has show the ability to win with speed, power, and inside/out. He could be very good in the NFL early.
As for Elam, he is a lesser version of Xavier Rhodes as a prospect. The big difference is Elam literally can't tackle. Until he fixes that he is a liability. Everything else is there for him though.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I could see this. I could see him falling and I could see the Vikings taking him. Walker is probably a 5T in the NFL. 12 is a little high for a 5T, but right now, our 5Ts are Tomlinson and Watts.
Watts looked good last year, but did he look good, or did he look good for a former 6th rounder?
I don't see it. Walker is the highest upside pass rusher in the class, even over Hutchinson. He will go in the top 5. Teams love potential even though he has a higher variance than some others.
Agree he's got a high upside, like all the Dawg DLs. But I'd take Jermaine Johnson over him.
In cramming for the draft the last couple weeks, there have been a few players that have stood out to me as better than advertised...
1st round
Kenny Pickett, QB - I think he's Kirk Cousins 2.0. But a lot faster.
Jermaine Johnson, Edge - Lifts his game to another level when facing quality opponent
Trent McDuffie, DB - A coach on the field. Does everything well. Press, off, man, zone. Almost zero bust factor.
Devin Lloyd, LB - He's going to be an All Pro LB. Probably not for the Vikings though.
Chris Olave, WR - Like JJ, he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he's going to be better in the NFL.
Day two
Kaiir Elam, CB
Kyler Gordong, CB
Nakobe Dean, LB
Leo Chenal, LB
I agree with the majority of your list. I'm very high on Johnson if he can just become a little more consistent. But that is the result of only really playing major snaps a single season. Watching more of McDuffie I'm fairly convinced he is just as good of a fit for the Vikings as Sauce/Stingley. There isn't a drop-off and all are co-equals. I will let you have the benefit of saying that first =)
Another two names to consider are Lewis Cine (he may end up being better than Hamilton) and Arnold Ebiketie. People are sleeping on the latter but he is one of the only pass rushers in the class who has show the ability to win with speed, power, and inside/out. He could be very good in the NFL early.
As for Elam, he is a lesser version of Xavier Rhodes as a prospect. The big difference is Elam literally can't tackle. Until he fixes that he is a liability. Everything else is there for him though.
I've read that about Elam, but haven't seen it yet. I'll have to keep looking because I hate corners who can't tackle. Really like Cine....and Cross too as next tier safeties behind Hamilton. Haven't studied Ebiketie yet, but will check him out.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I could see this. I could see him falling and I could see the Vikings taking him. Walker is probably a 5T in the NFL. 12 is a little high for a 5T, but right now, our 5Ts are Tomlinson and Watts.
Watts looked good last year, but did he look good, or did he look good for a former 6th rounder?
I don't see it. Walker is the highest upside pass rusher in the class, even over Hutchinson. He will go in the top 5. Teams love potential even though he has a higher variance than some others.
Agree he's got a high upside, like all the Dawg DLs. But I'd take Jermaine Johnson over him.
In cramming for the draft the last couple weeks, there have been a few players that have stood out to me as better than advertised...
1st round
Kenny Pickett, QB - I think he's Kirk Cousins 2.0. But a lot faster.
Jermaine Johnson, Edge - Lifts his game to another level when facing quality opponent
Trent McDuffie, DB - A coach on the field. Does everything well. Press, off, man, zone. Almost zero bust factor.
Devin Lloyd, LB - He's going to be an All Pro LB. Probably not for the Vikings though.
Chris Olave, WR - Like JJ, he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he's going to be better in the NFL.
Day two
Kaiir Elam, CB
Kyler Gordong, CB
Nakobe Dean, LB
Leo Chenal, LB
I agree with the majority of your list. I'm very high on Johnson if he can just become a little more consistent. But that is the result of only really playing major snaps a single season. Watching more of McDuffie I'm fairly convinced he is just as good of a fit for the Vikings as Sauce/Stingley. There isn't a drop-off and all are co-equals. I will let you have the benefit of saying that first =)
Another two names to consider are Lewis Cine (he may end up being better than Hamilton) and Arnold Ebiketie. People are sleeping on the latter but he is one of the only pass rushers in the class who has show the ability to win with speed, power, and inside/out. He could be very good in the NFL early.
As for Elam, he is a lesser version of Xavier Rhodes as a prospect. The big difference is Elam literally can't tackle. Until he fixes that he is a liability. Everything else is there for him though.
I've read that about Elam, but haven't seen it yet. I'll have to keep looking because I hate corners who can't tackle. Really like Cine....and Cross too as next tier safeties behind Hamilton. Haven't studied Ebiketie yet, but will check him out.
I like Cine as well...but similar to LSU's offense from their National Championship Season, is there a defensive player from Georgia that you don't like? I swear they're all studs.
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