Another Dallas Turner Thread

[purplefaithful]

After a disappointing rookie season, through 5 games in 2025 Turner has posted:
8 solo tackles
1 sack
0 forced fumbles
He also has 3.5 tackles for loss and 1 interception

When I watch the kid in isolation, he's pretty much out of the play once the OT gets their hands on him...But it also makes me wonder if BFlo is using the kid right or not? 

I look back at Doleman:

1985: 0 sacks
1986: 3 sacks
1987: 11 sacks
1988: 8 sacks
1989: 21 sacks

If memory serves me right, Doleman was asked to play LB his first 2 years? It wasnt till 87 when he was moved to DE in the 4/3 scheme. 

Again I ask, is BFlo using Turner correctly??? That said, I dont think he's the guy for a 3/4 DE...I'm not sure he's an ILB type/size?

Its way too early to call him a bust, but he is (for me at least) a disappointment.

[JR44]

Keep hoping he starts to show something and we really need him to step up tomorrow, so hopefully tomorrow is the day. The Doleman stats gives some hope.

I don't think it is scheme as Greenard and Van Ginkel have thrived in same system, but just a lack of physicality which is why these tackles take him out so easily. He looks smallish and not very strong to me. Verse looks and plays like a beast, he is the type of player who takes over a game, Turner just doesn't seem to have it.

The problem with Turner is that when you give up a 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th for a player, he needs to be an immediate impact player. Outside of QB, that is not a development pick, he has to come in and be someone like a Verse or Quinyon Mitchell, both of who we could have taken instead. We do not have time with all that draft capital to wait for him to develop or can afford to get average production.

[JustInTime]

Turner would definitely be better served to be in the Greenard role than the Van Ginkel role. I see improvement at the POA. He’s been a hair away several times from making a huge splash play(Nearly had a safety vs the Bengals). Still very young.

[purplefaithful]

Turner would definitely be better served to be in the Greenard role than the Van Ginkel role. I see improvement at the POA. He’s been a hair away several times from making a huge splash play(Nearly had a safety vs the Bengals). Still very young.

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at the bold - do you? I dont but I trust your opinion better than mine...

Explain to me the difference in roles between Greenard and Gink? Is Greenard mostly hand in the dirt where as Gink also covers the flat or downfield pass?