Watched the 2nd half

it's like a completely different game that 2nd half. Our defense gave us a few reminders of the 1st half on that final drive, but still. It was like 2 different games.

Waynes had two great plays too ... holding containment and stopping a td.  

@"AGRforever" said: Cousins delivered but Jayron Kearse won us the game. There were several throw at and tackles made by that guy. Credit where credit is due. 

JK had big plays for us - no doubt. I just see what KC did as exceptional. He carved up the NFL's 4th ranked passing D which was only giving up 202.1 yards a game, and only 7 passing TD's all year which was 2nd best in the league - as in 2nd fewest. After halftime, KC was 18-of-23 passing for 261 yards, three touchdowns and a 153.5 rating. 

@"NorthernCalVike" said:

@"AGRforever" said: Cousins delivered but Jayron Kearse won us the game. There were several throw at and tackles made by that guy. Credit where credit is due. 

JK had big plays for us - no doubt. I just see what KC did as exceptional. He carved up the NFL's 4th ranked passing D which was only giving up 202.1 yards a game, and only 7 passing TD's all year which was 2nd best in the league - as in 2nd fewest. After halftime, KC was 18-of-23 passing for 261 yards, three touchdowns and a 153.5 rating. 

Flash-back to Rudolph vs Cook last week...

Nice to have these discussions after wins. I'd have been PO'ed stewing over a loss to Denver for two weeks - and a real eeyore going into the Seattle game. 

@"AGRforever" said: Cousins delivered but Jayron Kearse won us the game. There were several throw at and tackles made by that guy. Credit where credit is due. 

Well...you can give Kearse all the credit you want. He played a great game in relief. I think he was making a statement because he won't be here next year. But, no, Cousins won us the game.

Guy walks out of the tunnel after the half down 20 against the 4th best pass defense in the NFL...and slices them up on his way to 4 straight touchdown drives. 18 of 23, 261 yards and a rating of 153.5.

With the right QB, OC and playmakers the Hurry Up is hard to stop. NE has won multiple Superbowls because of it. Buffalo made four straight because of it.

But Kearse wasn't good the 1st half any more than the rest of the Defense was. He was the victim of several completions to TEs early on and in on at least one of those completions that a Bronco somehow made with 2 Vik8ngs draped all over them.

That's getting to be an alarming thing. Dudes are catching passes with Vikings all over them. The Secondary needs to start doing a better job of seeing the ball and knocking it down instead of having their backs turned and trying to throw their arms up at the last second. 

Rhodes aside, the Secondary is in position to make a lot more plays than they have due to terrible ball skills. That's on the Coaches, IMO.

But back to KC. You don't want to stay in the hurry up all the time but it would sure be nice if Stefanski would sprinkle it in say, before the last drive of the 1st half! He's taking too long to go to it.

@"FSUVike" said: With the right QB, OC and playmakers the Hurry Up is hard to stop. NE has won multiple Superbowls because of it. Buffalo made four straight because of it.

But Kearse wasn't good the 1st half any more than the rest of the Defense was. He was the victim of several completions to TEs early on and in on at least one of those completions that a Bronco somehow made with 2 Vik8ngs draped all over them.

That's getting to be an alarming thing. Dudes are catching passes with Vikings all over them. The Secondary needs to start doing a better job of seeing the ball and knocking it down instead of having their backs turned and trying to throw their arms up at the last second. 

Rhodes aside, the Secondary is in position to make a lot more plays than they have due to terrible ball skills. That's on the Coaches, IMO.

But back to KC. You don't want to stay in the hurry up all the time but it would sure be nice if Stefanski would sprinkle it in say, before the last drive of the 1st half! He's taking too long to go to it.

That’s the frustrating thing - they are in position.  

I would go with he hurry up ... with DC running, and the screen passes, and play action - it would be hard to stop. 

@"FSUVike" said: With the right QB, OC and playmakers the Hurry Up is hard to stop. NE has won multiple Superbowls because of it. Buffalo made four straight because of it.

But Kearse wasn't good the 1st half any more than the rest of the Defense was. He was the victim of several completions to TEs early on and in on at least one of those completions that a Bronco somehow made with 2 Vik8ngs draped all over them.

That's getting to be an alarming thing. Dudes are catching passes with Vikings all over them. The Secondary needs to start doing a better job of seeing the ball and knocking it down instead of having their backs turned and trying to throw their arms up at the last second. 

Rhodes aside, the Secondary is in position to make a lot more plays than they have due to terrible ball skills. That's on the Coaches, IMO.

But back to KC. You don't want to stay in the hurry up all the time but it would sure be nice if Stefanski would sprinkle it in say, before the last drive of the 1st half! He's taking too long to go to it.

Its an important point to make regarding them making plays.  Our coverage had been pretty good bit i agree ball skills are key. Zim sacked up and let them cover mano a mano at crucial  points and we made the plays.  gives us alot of confidence but we cannot afford to get nearly taken out of a game like that.  Cousins delivered massively as did the oline cause KC is a staute 

I was listening to Sirius FM and got these two pretty impressive stats about the offense...

1. Vikings are fifth in first quarter points. Teams ahead of us:  New England, Ravens, Packers and I think Colts.
2. Vikings are fourth in first half scoring. Teams infront  of us: Baltimore, Kansas City, New England.

They do have a solid red zone defense too - I don’t  know stats. 

I expect field goals. 

@"Bullazin" said:

@"FSUVike" said: With the right QB, OC and playmakers the Hurry Up is hard to stop. NE has won multiple Superbowls because of it. Buffalo made four straight because of it.

But Kearse wasn't good the 1st half any more than the rest of the Defense was. He was the victim of several completions to TEs early on and in on at least one of those completions that a Bronco somehow made with 2 Vik8ngs draped all over them.

That's getting to be an alarming thing. Dudes are catching passes with Vikings all over them. The Secondary needs to start doing a better job of seeing the ball and knocking it down instead of having their backs turned and trying to throw their arms up at the last second. 

Rhodes aside, the Secondary is in position to make a lot more plays than they have due to terrible ball skills. That's on the Coaches, IMO.

But back to KC. You don't want to stay in the hurry up all the time but it would sure be nice if Stefanski would sprinkle it in say, before the last drive of the 1st half! He's taking too long to go to it.

Its an important point to make regarding them making plays.  Our coverage had been pretty good bit i agree ball skills are key. Zim sacked up and let them cover mano a mano at crucial  points and we made the plays.  gives us alot of confidence but we cannot afford to get nearly taken out of a game like that.  Cousins delivered massively as did the oline cause KC is a staute 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Bullazin" said:

@"FSUVike" said: With the right QB, OC and playmakers the Hurry Up is hard to stop. NE has won multiple Superbowls because of it. Buffalo made four straight because of it.

But Kearse wasn't good the 1st half any more than the rest of the Defense was. He was the victim of several completions to TEs early on and in on at least one of those completions that a Bronco somehow made with 2 Vik8ngs draped all over them.

That's getting to be an alarming thing. Dudes are catching passes with Vikings all over them. The Secondary needs to start doing a better job of seeing the ball and knocking it down instead of having their backs turned and trying to throw their arms up at the last second. 

Rhodes aside, the Secondary is in position to make a lot more plays than they have due to terrible ball skills. That's on the Coaches, IMO.

But back to KC. You don't want to stay in the hurry up all the time but it would sure be nice if Stefanski would sprinkle it in say, before the last drive of the 1st half! He's taking too long to go to it.

Its an important point to make regarding them making plays.  Our coverage had been pretty good bit i agree ball skills are key. Zim sacked up and let them cover mano a mano at crucial  points and we made the plays.  gives us alot of confidence but we cannot afford to get nearly taken out of a game like that.  Cousins delivered massively as did the oline cause KC is a staute 

That's a good description, if he could only learn some sliding around, step-up skills. It's one of my biggest beefs with him. 

Otoh, I'd bet he's getting most of his pressures from the interior. Really hard to avoid those. 

Kearse's recent tweets are basically a middle finger waving good bye. 

Kearse is a talented guy who doesn't get the use he should.  He has the speed and coverage ability of a DB and the height and (almost) weight of a linebacker.  He's the perfect guy to line up against a Travis Kelce and the like.  You can bet Kearse would have done a better job covering Noah Fant than the shit job Anthony Barr did on that key 4th down play.

Was I the only person watching the 1st half? Denver went at Kearse with TEs and WRs on multiple occassions and damn near every one of them was a big completion. 

And who did Erin go at in GB? Kearse. So much so that Mike pulled him on that 3rd TD drive. 

He is inconsistent in Coverage. Clemson didn't even use him like that. Dude is more LB than DB. That's definitely useful, but also has its drawbacks. Zimmer has used him right, IMO. Not exposing him too much in obvious passing downs unless Harris or Smith is out. He's also a demon on Special Teams.

Good player. Role player. And every team needs guys like that. The off the field stuff is a different matter. 

This is a pretty good compilation of Kearse's performance on that final drive. He made some money here....you might want to turn down the sound...

I'm not sure how he got away with that PI on the last play though

@"Akvike" said: I'm not sure how he got away with that PI on the last play though

Fant or Kearse?  Fant pushed off.  Kearse grabbed him in response to that.

ya might be right there a little on both