Forum › The Longship › Does A Tragic Injury Put Us In Place For A Franchi...

Does A Tragic Injury Put Us In Place For A Franchise Changing Moment?

JU
JustinTime18™
Joined Jan 2014
2,109 posts
Rep: 0

While there is always the possibility he returns for his senior year, Tua Tagovalia could be in play for us in the mid-20s...

He should be back throwing in 3 months...CJ Mosley had the same injury and was worked on by the same surgeon...prior to this, he's had a couple ankle issues, so that's a concern, and he's throwing to 2 NFL caliber WRs and is protected by two NFL caliber OTs...so, he's in the garden spot to suceed...but man, he's a consensus top 5 pick...

Perhaps fate has put us in position to get off the QB merry-go-round... 

Liked:
#1 · Nov 18, 1:42 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

Bo Jackson had the same surgery too...

Liked:
#2 · Nov 18, 2:18 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

I'm not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but Bo's surgery was nearly 30 years ago.

Liked:
#3 · Nov 18, 2:22 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

Mid 20's? I'm not ready to concede that #32 pick yet...

Liked:
#4 · Nov 18, 2:27 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

i was having the same thoughts saturday night.... but is he the nfl QB some think he is,  or is he another product of his football environment and wont transition well?  injury issues?  hmm.

Liked:
#5 · Nov 18, 2:31 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

Doctors said he has an 'excellent' prognosis for a full recovery. And yes, this will probably knock him down a bit in the first round. 

Liked:
#6 · Nov 18, 2:33 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
@"JimmyinSD" said: i was having the same thoughts saturday night.... but is he the nfl QB some think he is,  or is he another product of his football environment and wont transition well?  injury issues?  hmm.
Great minds...

Honestly, I've never looked at him with a critical eye as I never thought he'd be available...

Like I referred to, he is in a position that few can rival...reading TDN, there are few knocks...not as tall or big as you want, but there are plenty of QBs his size exceeding at this level...and seeing as the RT we have would be protecting his blindside, I think fate owes us a break...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings

Liked:
#7 · Nov 18, 3:23 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

Tua reminds me or Russell Wilson in his Badger days. 

I can't fathom him making to the 20's...I think they'd have to move up and with KC playing like he is now?

We'll see how this plays out.

Liked:
#8 · Nov 18, 3:24 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

The whole point of picking a high QB is to have a cheap QB on an expensive team and try to win a super bowl. 

Problem is we already have a top 5 QB right now. Why would we boot him to the curb hoping Tua works out?

Liked:
#9 · Nov 18, 3:28 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
@"AGRforever" said: The whole point of picking a high QB is to have a cheap QB on an expensive team and try to win a super bowl. 

Problem is we already have a top 5 QB right now. Why would we boot him to the curb hoping Tua works out?


If the season ended today, we wouldn't. But we don't know how the season is going to end. It all really depends on a lot of things. How does Kirk finish the season? Can we actually extend Cousins and SAVE money? Who's available where we pick? What were we able to do in free agency to help the rest of the team? Can we clear enough cap space to sign another OL?

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a QB in the first. Even if Cousins wins a Super Bowl, two good QBs is a good thing. It's just like dating, ya gotta have a little overlap. 

Liked:
#10 · Nov 18, 4:17 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
@"BarrNone55" said: I'm not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but Bo's surgery was nearly 30 years ago.
Read a lengthy article this morning from a major doc that works on these type of injuries and he was very concerned that there were multiple opportunities for there not to be enough blood flowing in the area that would cause long term problems. When it happened,  when the ball was put back in the socket, during rehab, etc. 

The doc also mentioned that even a totally successful surgery was no permanent guarantee as Bo had one that allowed him to play for 3 more years but it flared up again despite the completely successful surgery and forced him to retire.

That same doc also mentioned that outside of football the only times they see that type of injury is from a car crash. While I'm also not a Doctor (of medicine) I did read an article by one that raised a lot of flags.

Liked:
#11 · Nov 18, 4:27 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

If he's fully recovered/healthy he's still a top pick so no shot for the Vikings.  If there are lingering concerns then he's not worth the gamble so no luck for the Vikings.

Liked:
#12 · Nov 18, 4:52 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

It all hinges on the blood supply. If he has not disrupted the blood supply to the ball portion of the hip joint, his prognosis should be excellent. If he has lost part of the blood supply, he will develop avascular necrosis. Part of the bone will deteriorate from lack of oxygen and nutrients, which is what happened to Bo. 
Bone is living tissue and very vascular.

Liked:
#13 · Nov 18, 5:20 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

The hip was reduced right away:

Set Weather
Alabama
SubscribeSign InSearch
  1. ALABAMA FOOTBALL
Surgeon explains Tua’s hip injury, Bo Jackson connection and long-term outlookUpdated Nov 17, 5:41 PM;Posted Nov 17, 3:26 PM
232
2.5kshares
Emotions came quick when Tua Tagovailoa was slowly loaded onto the flatbed cart Saturday in Starkville. What first looked routine was clearly serious -- a hip dislocation that ended his junior season and possibly his Alabama career. Next came assignment of blame and a search for why such a rare injury would occur in that moment. There were more questions than answers.
And that's where Dr. Michael Banffy can help. An orthopedic surgeon at Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, Banffy is also a team doctor for the Rams. He spoke by phone Sunday with AL.com and was able to answer many of the questions that surround an injury uncommon in football and associated with the shortened career of Bo Jackson. Banffy is not involved with the treatment of Tagovailoa but has experience with hip injuries. The dislocated hip and posterior wall fracture, Banffy estimates, accounts for one percent of injuries in college/pro football. It's rare enough that he's only treated a handful of athletes for this but is trained to handle injuries like that one Tagovailoa suffered Saturday in a costly 38-7 win at Mississippi State How did this happen? At first glance, it didn't seem that severe. Even Banffy didn't think it was so serious watching the play happen until going back to watch closer. "So, he landed directly on that right knee and what that did -- particularly with the guys landing on his back -- just pushed the femur out of the back of the hip socket," Banffy said. "We have to remember the hip is a ball and socket joint so typically it's extremely stable so that's what makes this so unusual. Dislocating the hip generally requires a substantial amount of force." It's something most commonly associated with a traumatic car accident, not a tackle in a football game. With the dislocation of the hip comes the fracture. "What that means is the socket has a little chip in it," Banffy said, "which makes it a little more unstable." RELATED: Disastrous football Saturday rocks state of Alabama The hit didn't look bad enough to create such a major injury in the moment. Tagovailoa was chased from the pocket with two Bulldog defenders landing on him after launching the ball incomplete.
"When you have these guys going at the speed they're going with the muscles sparing and the power they have and having other people land on his back, it's definitely a possibility," Banffy said. "But yeah, to a common person, it doesn't seem like he just went through a car accident." It wasn't immediately clear how serious this was to the doctor. "Until he was barely putting any weight on it and then looking at the replay several times," Banffy said, "I was like 'Wow, that must be what that is when I saw him land directly on the knee." Is this related to the high-ankle sprain? The correlation between the hip dislocation and the high-ankle sprain suffered four weeks was made in the immediate aftermath. But is it medically connected? "Whenever we have an athlete, we're not only trying to get him to heal through whatever surgery they have but to get stronger to be able to protect themselves," Banffy said. "That's what people worry about so with regard to mobility, maybe he was more likely to get tackled than if he was completely healthy on that ankle that he could have had a little more speed.
"Other than that, I think it's otherwise a freak, freak accident." Like Bo Jackson? Instant fear surrounded the connection between Tagovailoa's injury and the one that ended Bo Jackson's pro football career. Yes, Jackson dislocated his hip being tackled in a 1991 game for the Oakland Raiders. And he had the same fracture as Jackson. So, what made Jackson's injury so life-changing? The multi-sport star suffered from Avascular necrosis or AVN in the aftermath of his dislocation and fracture. "What can happen with the dislocation is that blood vessels will either tear or they'll be placed on stretch for so long that the bone itself will lose its blood supply and that will cause death of the bone," Banffy said. "If you get it reduced right away, the idea is that will minimize the risk. But this is still something that you have to watch and it might not even present itself for a couple of months, similar to the way it did with Bo Jackson." The statement released by Alabama's team orthopedist Saturday night stated the hip was reduced at the stadium before being transported to St. Vincent's in Birmingham. Reducing a hip means putting it back in socket.
Liked:
#14 · Nov 18, 5:23 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
@"AGRforever" said: The whole point of picking a high QB is to have a cheap QB on an expensive team and try to win a super bowl. 

Problem is we already have a top 5 QB right now. Why would we boot him to the curb hoping Tua works out?


Right now, he's 5th statistically...if you truly believe he's a top 5 QB, well...

Liked:
#15 · Nov 18, 5:27 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

I take back my 1st post in this thread.

Wow...Had no idea the injury was potentially that consequential until now. 

What a shame if it comes to that. Hope they had insurance. 

Liked:
#16 · Nov 18, 5:53 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
Liked:
#17 · Nov 18, 6:29 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
Liked:
#18 · Nov 18, 6:30 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

Fourth surgery after 24 collegiate games played.  I had the same thought BN did about him falling to Minnesota but what if he's Sam Bradford 2.0?

Liked:
#19 · Nov 18, 6:31 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0
Liked:
#20 · Nov 18, 6:31 PM
DE
deleted_user
Joined Apr 2026
206,512 posts
Rep: 0

There's literally a litany of IFs here. IF Udoh or Samia (or maybe both) become Starters next year. IF Watts, Herc & Holmes do a Dragonball Z merge-thingy and become a great 3T. IF Hughes/Mac/Hill supplant Rhodes/Waynes. IF Ant Harris signs a team friendly deal. IF Zimmer lets EG go in favor of Weatherly/All Vowels.

Those are all the IFs that need to happen to risk a 1st on an inarguably massively talented kid. Too many by a lot, quite frankly. He'll either go to NE and win SBs or play less games than Bradford for a cursed franchise. 

Liked:
#21 · Nov 18, 7:08 PM
Log in to reply.

Edit Post (mod action — author will see a notice)

Warn Poster

Suspend User (3 days)

The user will be suspended for 3 days and will receive an email with the reason and information about how to appeal.

Forum › The Longship › Does A Tragic Injury Put Us In Place For A Franchi...
Return to top ↑

Welcome to VikeFans!

Welcome back, Skol fans! This is our new home. Log in with your username or email and your existing password.


Be sure to check out the How To's and Questions forum for guides on getting around the new site, and use the Help Request forum if you run into anything that you need help with. Skol!