Are yah starting to believe in this OL and Scheme now?
Or still in wait and see mode???
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
I believe.
With Cook, defenses have a hard task stopping the play action pass and the run.
I think it will get better. How?
Gelling OL
Improved and active TE play
Bisi becoming a concern for defenses
Home games in Nov and December
I have been a believer in the scheme. The O line has been improving and looked very good yesterday. But can they pass protect, when the Vikings get behind by a couple of scores?
Giant and Lions are 28th and 31st in yards surrendered this year.
Eagles, Lions, Giants are 24,25, 26 in points per game surrendered.
I like what I am seeing, but I am also not ready to take a sigh of relief just yet.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Giant and Lions are 28th and 31st in yards surrendered this year.Eagles, Lions, Giants are 24,25, 26 in points per game surrendered.
I like what I am seeing, but I am also not ready to take a sigh of relief just yet.
Agreed, but a perfect time to get this offense in tune.
I'm good with this team - My BIGGEST concern id the OFFICIATING
I am happy with what i see but want to see how we perform against a top shelf team like the Patriots, Saints, and maybe K.C. or Packers. Will the league figure out how to shut down our play action? Can they contain Cook. Can we put together both the defense and offense and when against the best teama?
@"Vanguard83" said: I'm good with this team - My BIGGEST concern id the OFFICIATINGI agree! I reached a point in the first quarter were I wouldn’t cheer for any good play until i checked for flags and all reviews and challenges were in. Frick’n outrages the flags that were coming out on every play and then to go to the third and fourth quarter and hardly see a flag.
@"ThunderGod" said: I am happy with what i see but want to see how we perform against a top shelf team like the Patriots, Saints, and maybe K.C. or Packers. Will the league figure out how to shut down our play action? Can they contain Cook. Can we put together both the defense and offense and when against the best teama?As long as we don't have to play in Chicago again, I think we will be fine. IMO, that field is notoriously slow, long grass and not great for speed guys. I think that is why our offense couldn't get going, Cook usually fits through those holes quickly, but he couldn't get there on that field. Hopefully Stef learns from that day and understands he needs to call a different game.
I'm pretty stoked we are 5-2 with our division road games OVER.
Now if officials would just let teams play and NOT give GB SIX first downs on penalties in a given game...that'd be nice.
It was a coup biak.
He was not supposed to be available. Imagine our luck. Everyone in Denver expected him back. But they'd just hired a new head coach, whom they couldn't exactly handcuff by forcing him to take on Kubiak's guys. So Kubiak, the outside zone run-game guru, walks...just in time for a team with a QB who cut his teeth in the Shanahan/Kubiak system, a team with a new OC who could use a mentor, a team with a back whose strength was outside zone, a team that was almost "angrily" committed to running the ball more.
Not to diminish what Stef has done because his play calling has been beautiful. But getting Kubiak and his team was a stroke of luck on several levels. What's more, Stefanski now becomes a branch on the Shanahan coaching tree along with the younger Shanahan and McVay.
I hesitate to call it the Shanahan tree because you will find many, many smart people out there who will argue it was more Kubiak than it was Shanahan.
@"greediron" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Giant and Lions are 28th and 31st in yards surrendered this year.Eagles, Lions, Giants are 24,25, 26 in points per game surrendered.
I like what I am seeing, but I am also not ready to take a sigh of relief just yet.
Agreed, but a perfect time to get this offense in tune.
oh absolutely, its too bad this team couldnt have cut their teeth on these weaker opponents to start the season and then faced the better defenses now that they are starting to gel. but you get what ya get and you will like it!
@"JimmyinSD" said: Giant and Lions are 28th and 31st in yards surrendered this year.Eagles, Lions, Giants are 24,25, 26 in points per game surrendered.
I like what I am seeing, but I am also not ready to take a sigh of relief just yet.
Ok negative nancy :) one could also say us kicking their ass is the reason theyre rated so low.
@"AGRforever" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Giant and Lions are 28th and 31st in yards surrendered this year.Eagles, Lions, Giants are 24,25, 26 in points per game surrendered.
I like what I am seeing, but I am also not ready to take a sigh of relief just yet.
Ok negative nancy :) one could also say us kicking their ass is the reason theyre rated so low.
yeah... I dont think 1 game put them in the cellar after 6 games or more, I think this is more of who they are vs what we did to them... but I could be wrong.
@"MaroonBells" said:It was a coup biak. He was not supposed to be available. Imagine our luck. Everyone in Denver expected him back. But they'd just hired a new head coach, whom they couldn't exactly handcuff by forcing him to take on Kubiak's guys. So Kubiak, the outside zone run-game guru, walks...just in time for a team with a QB who cut his teeth in the Shanahan/Kubiak system, a team with a new OC who could use a mentor, a team with a back whose strength was outside zone, a team that was almost "angrily" committed to running the ball more. Not to diminish what Stef has done because his play calling has been beautiful. But getting Kubiak and his team was a stroke of luck on several levels. What's more, Stefanski now becomes a branch on the Shanahan coaching tree along with the younger Shanahan and McVay. I hesitate to call it the Shanahan tree because you will find many, many smart people out there who will argue it was more Kubiak than it was Shanahan.
Right. So if the Vikings continue to have success and make a deep run in the playoffs . . . do we lose Stefansky to a HC job after this season? This is jumping the gun, no doubt, but I felt the same way with Shermur.
@"dadevike" said:@"MaroonBells" said:It was a coup biak. He was not supposed to be available. Imagine our luck. Everyone in Denver expected him back. But they'd just hired a new head coach, whom they couldn't exactly handcuff by forcing him to take on Kubiak's guys. So Kubiak, the outside zone run-game guru, walks...just in time for a team with a QB who cut his teeth in the Shanahan/Kubiak system, a team with a new OC who could use a mentor, a team with a back whose strength was outside zone, a team that was almost "angrily" committed to running the ball more. Not to diminish what Stef has done because his play calling has been beautiful. But getting Kubiak and his team was a stroke of luck on several levels. What's more, Stefanski now becomes a branch on the Shanahan coaching tree along with the younger Shanahan and McVay. I hesitate to call it the Shanahan tree because you will find many, many smart people out there who will argue it was more Kubiak than it was Shanahan.Right. So if the Vikings continue to have success and make a deep run in the playoffs . . . do we lose Stefansky to a HC job after this season? This is jumping the gun, no doubt, but I felt the same way with Shermur.
his name was mentioned before the O even started clicking as a potential HC for the Redskins opening.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"dadevike" said:@"MaroonBells" said:It was a coup biak. He was not supposed to be available. Imagine our luck. Everyone in Denver expected him back. But they'd just hired a new head coach, whom they couldn't exactly handcuff by forcing him to take on Kubiak's guys. So Kubiak, the outside zone run-game guru, walks...just in time for a team with a QB who cut his teeth in the Shanahan/Kubiak system, a team with a new OC who could use a mentor, a team with a back whose strength was outside zone, a team that was almost "angrily" committed to running the ball more. Not to diminish what Stef has done because his play calling has been beautiful. But getting Kubiak and his team was a stroke of luck on several levels. What's more, Stefanski now becomes a branch on the Shanahan coaching tree along with the younger Shanahan and McVay. I hesitate to call it the Shanahan tree because you will find many, many smart people out there who will argue it was more Kubiak than it was Shanahan.Right. So if the Vikings continue to have success and make a deep run in the playoffs . . . do we lose Stefansky to a HC job after this season? This is jumping the gun, no doubt, but I felt the same way with Shermur.
his name was mentioned before the O even started clicking as a potential HC for the Redskins opening.I had not heard that. If he continues calling plays like he has the last 3 games, we simply cannot afford to lose him and then start over. Make him the co-HC.
I like what I'm seeing...aggressive play calling, limit the short passing game, getting the ball to more playmakers and keeping the running backs fresh. Adam, Rudy, Bisi, Ham, Cook all getting TD's. Can't ask for better!
@"dadevike" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"dadevike" said:@"MaroonBells" said:It was a coup biak. He was not supposed to be available. Imagine our luck. Everyone in Denver expected him back. But they'd just hired a new head coach, whom they couldn't exactly handcuff by forcing him to take on Kubiak's guys. So Kubiak, the outside zone run-game guru, walks...just in time for a team with a QB who cut his teeth in the Shanahan/Kubiak system, a team with a new OC who could use a mentor, a team with a back whose strength was outside zone, a team that was almost "angrily" committed to running the ball more. Not to diminish what Stef has done because his play calling has been beautiful. But getting Kubiak and his team was a stroke of luck on several levels. What's more, Stefanski now becomes a branch on the Shanahan coaching tree along with the younger Shanahan and McVay. I hesitate to call it the Shanahan tree because you will find many, many smart people out there who will argue it was more Kubiak than it was Shanahan.Right. So if the Vikings continue to have success and make a deep run in the playoffs . . . do we lose Stefansky to a HC job after this season? This is jumping the gun, no doubt, but I felt the same way with Shermur.
his name was mentioned before the O even started clicking as a potential HC for the Redskins opening.I had not heard that. If he continues calling plays like he has the last 3 games, we simply cannot afford to lose him and then start over. Make him the co-HC.
I am expecting the Vikings to keep him as the successor to Zimmer if he is successful. I know Zimmer says he wants to coach indefinitely, but the stress of the job is taking its toll on him. I wouldnt be surprised to see him step away as soon as after next year. I know Zimm is defensive genius but he is nearly 65, if Stefanski is what some think he is I think he would have more value going forward than Zim would have for only a couple more years or so. I also think that if Stefanski were to leave that would be the end of our entire offensive coaching staff as he would likely take his buddy Klint with him and so would go daddy and his OL guru.
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