I do have to say there was something concerning

@"BarrNone55" said: Reply to this and you're off the hook.

https://vikefans.com/discussion/#/discussion/9716/how-good-are-you-at-budget-shopping

The only issue I had was when our LBs were burned in coverage trying to cover RBs.  I was having flashbacks to the Rams game last year.  But, something changed.  I assume that Zimmer figured out how to clean that up... because the Eagles stopped running it (or, at least, completing those passes).

I think we were inches away on at least 3 different occasions for that soft defense to have had interceptions.  I think part of that softer D look is to create more turnover opportunities and they damn near got to a hand full of them.  if those picks had come I dont think anybody has any issues with the scheme would they?

@"Mike Olson" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Reply to this and you're off the hook.

https://vikefans.com/discussion/#/discussion/9716/how-good-are-you-at-budget-shopping

underwear section at goodwill

@"Mike Olson" said: It isn't like i am saying the team is shit or the game is shit. I just don't care for the way we play soft with a lead that isn't insurmountable at the time of the game. 

Of course they are a professional team and they are allowed to play well. I am speaking to how we react in those situations. How many felt the game was honkey dorey when they got within 4 points? No creeping into your mind of that "here we go again feeling?".... None? 

Mmmmkay. Sure. 

I had a teeny bit of doubt if we could close it out after Philly made it 24-20, but what I feel doesn't matter.  The results do and Zimmer adjusted pretty quickly to what Pederson did after that opening 2nd half drive for a TD.

We won by 18 points and sucked the life out of Philly from the late 3rd quarter on. 

We need to focus on the results and not nitpick tiny little points of the game.  The Vikings played well in all phases and look like a team that is finding it's identity.

I'm just glad the NDSU Bison led
Eagles team didn't beat us.  Yeah, I went from "All Giddy" to
"Oh Crap" then back to "Yeah, Baby!" in the end; it was
another bi-polar afternoon, and my dog thinks I'm insane.  Oh well, she
got a nice walk after the game so we both had an incredibly nice
afternoon.  B)

Overall, I have no complaints with
our D yesterday.  I'll bet Philly fans can't say that this morning.

I noticed at halftime Doug Pederson was asked how the Eagles we're able to finally find some success scoring on offense - he said the Eagles were "finally able to attack linebackers." Obviously they didn't win the game with that strategy, but the quote came almost immediately off of those points.

@"BlackMagic7" said: I noticed at halftime Doug Pederson was asked how the Eagles we're able to finally find some success scoring on offense - he said the Eagles were "finally able to attack linebackers." Obviously they didn't win the game with that strategy, but the quote came almost immediately off of those points.

Pederson has the key to our zone, had it in the NFC Title game.  Zimmer doesn't like to expose players for to long because the man on man defense will give up the big play.  When we went soft it did exactly what we wanted, took a lot of time to score.  Problem is Diggs interception gave up a short field.

@"HappyViking" said: I'm just glad the NDSU Bison led Eagles team didn't beat us.  Yeah, I went from "All Giddy" to "Oh Crap" then back to "Yeah, Baby!" in the end; it was another bi-polar afternoon, and my dog thinks I'm insane.  Oh well, she got a nice walk after the game so we both had an incredibly nice afternoon.  B)

Overall, I have no complaints with
our D yesterday.  I'll bet Philly fans can't say that this morning.

I came home from USB and walked the doggies too...

Not a happy morning being an Eagles fan today. I should go read some of their head-lines. Wish I had some of their tears to add to my morning tea.

@"greediron" said: Everyone is a great arm chair QB.  And the opposing coaches can't adjust to the obviously great game plan we had for Wentz and the eagles.  Good thing Zimmer lucked into another win

@"FSUVike" said:

@"greediron" said: Everyone is a great arm chair QB.  And the opposing coaches can't adjust to the obviously great game plan we had for Wentz and the eagles.  Good thing Zimmer lucked into another win

So legit criticism of even the old Prevent Defense is no longer allowed here?

You're smarter than that, FSU.

Whatever it is or is not, when they scored to go up 24-3 it was predictable that the Eagles would go right down the field and score.  In fact, I did predict it as I said to the guys at the bar "the Eagles are going to score on this drive" when they lined up for their first play. I thought it would take more than just five damn plays though.  :/  They didn't play all that well from that point until it was 24-20, obviously.  Luckily they pulled their heads out at that point.

I do wish our running backs would stop fumbling near the end zone at the ends of games.  A 45-20 win would have been a better ass-kicking for the Eagles fans to pout about.  Still, I see the Vikings point differential of +57 is behind only NE and SF in the league (the only two unbeaten teams).  That's a pretty nice stat.

@"Wetlander" said: You're smarter than that, FSU.

So here's some truth: the Defensive Guru who once said he could find CBs that can play Zone at 711 is using his pricey, Man to Man cover guy in zone. Like a lot.

I get the idea of switching to Zone to combat all the misdirection, rub routes etc. The whole League started doing it last year and that's when most of the high powered Offenses started slowing down.

But Belicheat went back to Man late last year against the Chiefs and again vs. the Rams. Zimmer seems to be going the other way playing more and more of it. All that soft coverage can lead to lots of easy pitch and catches ala the 3rd Quarter yesterday.

Frankly, I expect more from a Defense that has that much capital invested in it. 

Saw a bit on the news about how Belicheat showed the League how to beat KC by playing Man. The Colts did it. The Texans dis it. Soft Zone against the Chiefs will result in a big road loss, IMO.

To me there are only 2 explanations: Mike has gone way overboard with his use of Zone or Rhodes has completely fallen off a cliff and Mike is doing it to protect him.

Whatever the case is it's touch to watch so much soft coverage. Even in a win. And Mike is right to post about it.

@"FSUVike" said:

@"Wetlander" said: You're smarter than that, FSU.

You know I am. That was some hyperbole to rile up the Forum Police who seem to think you can't say a single damned negative thing after a Win.

So here's some truth: the Defensive Guru who once said he could find CBs that can play Zone at 711 is using his pricey, Man to Man cover guy in zone. Like a lot.

I get the idea of switching to Zone to combat all the misdirection, rub routes etc. The whole League started doing it last year and that's when most of the high powered Offenses started slowing down.

But Belicheat went back to Man late last year against the Chiefs and again vs. the Rams. Zimmer seems to be going the other way playing more and more of it. All that soft coverage can lead to lots of easy pitch and catches ala the 3rd Quarter yesterday.

Frankly, I expect more from a Defense that has that much capital invested in it. 

Saw a bit on the news about how Belicheat showed the League how to beat KC by playing Man. The Colts did it. The Texans dis it. Soft Zone against the Chiefs will result in a big road loss, IMO.

To me there are only 2 explanations: Mike has gone way overboard with his use of Zone or Rhodes has completely fallen off a cliff and Mike is doing it to protect him.

Whatever the case is it's touch to watch so much soft coverage. Even in a win. And Mike is right to post about it.

something to consider.
The Eagles entered Week 6 with the No. 2 3rd down offense but they converted only four of 12 (33%) attempts against the Vikings.

When you're giving up wide open 5 yard completions and the receiver gets another 3 yards before he goes down your Defense isn't going to see a lot of 3rd Downs, so that's a deceptive stat.

The Defense is fine. I'm expecting more than fine. And I bet you dollars to donuts we will see Zone against pocket passers too. I really don't think it's got much to do mobile QBs versus letting guys get wide open off of misdirection or Xavier falling off a cliff like Revis did.

Yeah I like Wentz and all. But it is freaking funny.  How people are ga ga over him.  Stick is with San Diego, Billy Turner is with Green Bay, Joe Haeg is with Indy.  But since Wentz went #2 and is a QB everybody had to become Eagles Fans.  My brother in-law is a true Eagles Fan and he is sick of the player chaser fans.  Also hates that the only jerseys available in Bismarck are Wentz jerseys.  

@"mjollnir_k" said: Yeah I like Wentz and all. But it is freaking funny.  How people are ga ga over him.  Stick is with San Diego, Billy Turner is with Green Bay, Joe Haeg is with Indy.  But since Wentz went #2 and is a QB everybody had to become Eagles Fans.  My brother in-law is a true Eagles Fan and he is sick of the player chaser fans.  Also hates that the only jerseys available in Bismarck are Wentz jerseys.