Don't Sleep On Ant Harris
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@"greediron" said: Don't sleep on Ant Hill either.
I didnt sleep on one, but I tried to drown out a hill of fire ants in oklahoma as a little kid.... thats when I learned that they have more than one exit. long story short that was my first visit to an emergency room. on the plus side.... I got an etch a sketch out of the deal, they had to put something in my hands to keep me from scratching all those bites one they started to heal.
I was always on the Harris bandwagon. I was calling for Sendejo's benching long before it was fashionable! B)
@"pumpf" said: I was always on the Harris bandwagon. I was calling for Sendejo's benching long before it was fashionable! B)I might not have been on the bandwagon, but I thought he was ready to make the jump a year before he did. I saw coverage skills that were lacking in Sendejo. And I thought Sendejo was undervalued quite often, but this passing league needs coverage abilities in the back end.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"greediron" said: Don't sleep on Ant Hill either.
I didnt sleep on one, but I tried to drown out a hill of fire ants in oklahoma as a little kid.... thats when I learned that they have more than one exit. long story short that was my first visit to an emergency room. on the plus side.... I got an etch a sketch out of the deal, they had to put something in my hands to keep me from scratching all those bites one they started to heal.
My not so funny then, fire ant story. Many years ago my friend who was separated from his wife, soon to be divorced had his weekend with his little girl. The daughter was only maybe 2 1/2 then. We were hanging out at my apartment by the pool. We were keeping a close eye on her but were worried more about her going in the water. So we weren't so worried she was over by the fence around the pool area poking at the ground with a stick. Well we thought it was the ground. She then let out a screech that made everyone jump and run over to her. Yep the whole bottom half of her little body was covered in them nasty things. We dipped her in the pool to get them off and rushed to the ER. She was ok but my friends soon to be ex wife was livid. He got a total earful at the hospital. I'm pretty sure it was brought up in family court later as well.
@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy.For all the bitching when Spielman gets on Day Two and Three, where's the acclaim when he and the scouts consistently pull guys out Day Four?
No fire ants in ND, but my dad used to take us fencing even when we were mere toddlers. (can't imagine how he got any work done) One of his favorite stories was me sitting on an ant hill yowling as the buggers were biting me.
A much funnier (to me) story was told by my father-in-law who used to go to texas to winter his bees. Fire ants were plentiful and water was the best remedy to getting into a pile of them. So one guy in the trailer court ended up covered in fire ants so he ran home, stripping as he ran in the trailer, heading for the shower. Only he met the lady of the house and it wasn't his wife. Seems in his haste he had ran in the wrong trailer.
@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy.I believe he had a bad neck injury otherwise I believe he would have went in round 2
I remember scouting Harris. He had great cover skills and was a leader, but lacked the size needed for an NFL Safety. I think he played most of his college career at right about 180lbs, and there was a concern he didn't have the frame to bulk up very much. That, combined with his injury pushed him back in The Draft. He didn't exactly light it up at camp, either. He's a good example of a guy that takes a couple years to be ready physically, but the other traits were there.
@"BarrNone55" said:The fact is that he has made the most late round picks of ANY team in the NFL since he became a GM. If he didn't hit on the guys like Diggs, Weatherly, etc. he probably wouldn't still be a GM.@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy. For all the bitching when Spielman gets on Day Two and Three, where's the acclaim when he and the scouts consistently pull guys out Day Four?I'm mostly supportive of his tenure but the constant trading out of the middle rounds to mine the late rounds isn't my favorite trait of his. And the constant lauding of his late round successes seems to always omit the fact that he makes the most picks too.
@"FSUVike" said:@"BarrNone55" said:The fact is that he has made the most late round picks of ANY team in the NFL since he became a GM. If he didn't hit on the guys like Diggs, Weatherly, etc. he probably wouldn't still be a GM.@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy. For all the bitching when Spielman gets on Day Two and Three, where's the acclaim when he and the scouts consistently pull guys out Day Four?I'm mostly supportive of his tenure but the constant trading out of the middle rounds to mine the late rounds isn't my favorite trait of his. And the constant lauding of his late round successes seems to always omit the fact that he makes the most picks too.
So how he does it negates the fact that he does it? So the meal tastes great but since you don't approve of his measuring technique, you don't like it?
Put it this way, perhaps he sees something. Maybe that mid rounders typically are average players and that he has more freedom to take a flyer on late rounders. The flyers are boom or bust because he is looking for the home run, the physical freaks, the guys that are ignored. Some fail for the reasons they slipped, some are hits.
Dunno, but he gets paid a hell of a lot more than I do to know this stuff. Maybe it is mostly an ego trip, maybe he is a genius. But looking at our roster that has been built mostly from the draft and has plenty of stud players, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. That is with the caveat that his method has not worked well at O-line. He seems to be changing his method there. And the lack of developing talent at QB once he drafted a guy is another flaw. Cousins was that mid rounder that developed behind a high draft pick. We haven't done that, choosing to protect the ego of the high pick rather than draft insurance. But the rest of the roster is damn stacked.
@"BarrNone55" said:When he first started doing that he wasn't particularly good at it. In order to justify trading down for late round picks you have to eventually show that it's actually working. My belief is that Rick believed in the idea and stuck with it until they got better at identifying late and post draft talent. I heard a former director of scouting once say that after the 4th round everyone's just guessing. So you might as well have as many guesses as possible. Harris, Thielen, and Weatherly argue pretty strongly for it. Other promising players like Beebe, Boone, Roc, Odenigbo, Aviante, Zylstra, Holton, etc probably do as well.@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy. For all the bitching when Spielman gets on Day Two and Three, where's the acclaim when he and the scouts consistently pull guys out Day Four?
@"MaroonBells" said:Having coaches that can identify traits they want may have helped him as well.@"BarrNone55" said:When he first started doing that he wasn't particularly good at it. In order to justify trading down for late round picks you have to eventually show that it's actually working. My belief is that Rick believed in the idea and stuck with it until they got better at identifying late and post draft talent. I heard a former director of scouting once say that after the 4th round everyone's just guessing. So you might as well have as many guesses as possible. Harris, Thielen, and Weatherly argue pretty strongly for it. Other promising players like Beebe, Boone, Roc, Odenigbo, Aviante, Zylstra, Holton, etc probably do as well.@"StickyBun" said: Undrafted........crazy. For all the bitching when Spielman gets on Day Two and Three, where's the acclaim when he and the scouts consistently pull guys out Day Four?
I would feel better on Ricks drafting preferences if he didnt have so many fails in the first round. granted all teams have guys that dont live up to potential, but to miss as bad as he has with Ponder, Kalil, Patterson, and Treadwell, thats a hard decade. maybe since coaches have an assistant for everything Rick should have an assistant that handles the first round for him?
@"BarrNone55" said: With 11 pass breakups, 19 interceptions, and a first-team All-America title under his belt, Harris had an impressive college career. It was a torn labrum suffered in his senior season that caused him to go undrafted in the 2015 NFL Draft.
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