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Elflein: 'I was in the weight room, not the hospital room this offseason'

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Pat Elflein, the #Vikings left guard, has played it before. But he's confident in his departure from center, mainly, because he's healthy.

"I was in the weight room. I wasn't in the hospital this offseason." (link: http://www.startribune.com/garrett-bradbury-at-center-pat-elflein-at-guard-for-vikings-stefon-diggs-skips-ota/510280292/) startribune.com/garrett-bradbu… #Vikings

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#1 · May 23, 6:20 AM
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I think he's going to play like he has something to prove at OG. 

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#2 · May 23, 6:20 AM
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During the course of a season, the chances of at least a couple of linemen missing a game or two is pretty likely.  Last year was pretty devastating with no/none quality depth.  This year with the linemen that's in camp, I feel a whole lot better.  The depth now is really going to show and help the team through the season.

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#3 · May 23, 7:15 AM
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Never quite understood how many seemed to bail on the guy after last year...no ota...not mini camp, training camp, two surgeries...

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#4 · May 23, 3:32 PM
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He probably came back too soon...I think the 3rd game of the season.  No off-season workouts...no lifting, no training.  Like Barr said, no OTAs, mini camp or training camp.  Pretty much thrown to the wolves.

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#5 · May 23, 3:38 PM
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I think he definitely came back too soon.  I don't hold that against Elflein, but I hold it against Spielman and the coaching staff for not having a contingency plan for Elflein, Easton, and Remmers all being high risks on the inside (and Hill at RT with O'Neill being projected to redshirt)

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#6 · May 23, 3:53 PM
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@"BarrNone55" said: Never quite understood how many seemed to bail on the guy after last year...no ota...not mini camp, training camp, two surgeries...
From seeing him bust his hump at training camp, I never understood that either. He worked hard, I can respect that.
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#7 · May 25, 7:07 AM
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I'm glad he is doing better, but I think it takes longer to get NFL strong than 5 months.  More like 2 years in the weightroom.  As a rookie, he was not noted as being strong.  He was already behind then.  Last year he couldn't because of injuries, so he has a long ways to go from here.

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#8 · May 25, 12:34 PM
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@"Ponifan" said: I'm glad he is doing better, but I think it takes longer to get NFL strong than 5 months.  More like 2 years in the weightroom.  As a rookie, he was not noted as being strong.  He was already behind then.  Last year he couldn't because of injuries, so he has a long ways to go from here.


He will have been back to full training for almost a year by the time the season starts.  Also he plays with better leverage and technique than most guys so any shortage of strength is covered up with talent and athleticism.  Elf will be just fine.

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#9 · May 25, 1:54 PM
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@"BarrNone55" said: Never quite understood how many seemed to bail on the guy after last year...no ota...not mini camp, training camp, two surgeries...
LOL, because Vikings offensive linemen don't rebound from bad seasons! Come on, think how many (in the past decade) have only had ONE good season: Kalil, Charlie Johnson, Easton, Boone, Remmers, even Reiff...

And when was the last time an OL had a bad year or injury and then had a comeback season for us? Sullivan, Fusco...back to Bryant McKinnie, once one of our linemen declines, they're done or gone. Don't blame any fan for worrying that Elflein was a one-year wonder.

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#10 · May 25, 7:41 PM
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I think the biggest misconception about Elflein was that he was really good as a rookie. He made the all rookie team, but I'm pretty sure he was the only rookie center to have earned a starting spot that year. PFF ranked him 32 out of 38 qualifying centers that year. He gets a pass for 2018. 

That said, I expect him to be a revelation at left guard this year. The best LG we've had since Steve Hutchinson. Going into his 3rd season, fully healthy, back to strength. And since he's a much better run blocker than pass blocker I expect our focus on the run will help him quite a bit. 

Found his PFF grades at center and guard at OSU:

At guard in 2014 and 2015 Pat Elflein had an:

82.3 and 87.5 overall grade
73.8 and 80.5 pass block grade
84.9 and 88.5 run block grade

In 2016 at center Pat Elflein had an:

80.9 overall grade

66.5 pass block grade
88.2 run block grade

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