So... who do you want next?
It sucks about Jawaan Taylor because some team is going to grab him in the first 5-7 picks of round 2. It would be hard to swallow for Minnesota to move up in round 2, give up a pick and get him because of the medical risks. He's a LT and if he can stay healthy, a top 10 type talent.
Sigh. Dalton Risner is there but he's a RT only, IMO. Not sure if Vikes are ready to move O'Neill to LT in 2019 yet.
Both trenches needed bolstering, so I'm good with a 3t or another OL...OTOH, adding a 3rd weapon @ WR or TE is fine by me too. I'm pretty damn easy and enjoying the freedom the Bradbury pick affords us today.
@"StickyBun" said: It sucks about Jawaan Taylor because some team is going to grab him in the first 5-7 picks of round 2. It would be hard to swallow for Minnesota to move up in round 2, give up a pick and get him because of the medical risks. He's a LT and if he can stay healthy, a top 10 type talent.Sigh. Dalton Risner is there but he's a RT only, IMO. Not sure if Vikes are ready to move O'Neill to LT in 2019 yet.
Take Risner, plug him in at RG for this year if he can beat out Kline, leave the OTs alone, Elf and Bradbury fill the LG and C spots. Kline and Collins along with Hill, Jones, and 1 other fill out my reserves. Let's play some football.
@"StickyBun" said: It sucks about Jawaan Taylor because some team is going to grab him in the first 5-7 picks of round 2. It would be hard to swallow for Minnesota to move up in round 2, give up a pick and get him because of the medical risks. He's a LT and if he can stay healthy, a top 10 type talent.Sigh. Dalton Risner is there but he's a RT only, IMO. Not sure if Vikes are ready to move O'Neill to LT in 2019 yet.
Taylor isn't a LT, he played the majority of his college career on the right side and that's where most scouts/draft experts have him pegged in the NFL. Add in his medical red flags and past weight concerns (dude was 380 pounds coming out of high school and had to drop 40 pounds just to get a scholarship)... he carries a ton of risk.
I said it earlier this off-season, he has too many red flags for my liking... seems like a classic "bust" player. I would much rather look somewhere else if we're going to get an OT.
@"Wetlander" said:@"StickyBun" said: It sucks about Jawaan Taylor because some team is going to grab him in the first 5-7 picks of round 2. It would be hard to swallow for Minnesota to move up in round 2, give up a pick and get him because of the medical risks. He's a LT and if he can stay healthy, a top 10 type talent.Sigh. Dalton Risner is there but he's a RT only, IMO. Not sure if Vikes are ready to move O'Neill to LT in 2019 yet.
Taylor isn't a LT, he played the majority of his college career on the right side and that's where most scouts/draft experts have him pegged in the NFL. Add in his medical red flags and past weight concerns (dude was 380 pounds coming out of high school and had to drop 40 pounds just to get a scholarship)... he carries a ton of risk.I said it earlier this off-season, he has too many red flags for my liking... seems like a classic "bust" player. I would much rather look somewhere else if we're going to get an OT.
Thanks, Wet....I thought he was a LT prospect.
@"StickyBun" said:Thanks, Wet....I thought he was a LT prospect.
No worries, a couple weeks ago I thought Connor McGovern from Penn State was an OT and was corrected... I was thinking of the "other" Connor McGovern from Missouri that was in the draft a couple years ago. It happens, LOL.
It'll be interesting to see what the Vikings do at OL from here on out... I wouldn't be surprised if we wait a bit now. I could see a developmental OT on Day 3, but the next tier of OL seem like interior guys or RTs. I guess it depends on whether the Vikings want to move O'Neill from RT. If they do, a guy like Cody Ford might make sense, but then we're likely trading or cutting Reiff to get some cap relief.
If they want to keep O'Neill at RT, then we might look at an OG in the next couple rounds but not necessarily at 50. Lots of different ways to go, but right now it seems like our OL is:
LT: Reiff / O'Neill
LG: Elflein / Bradbury / Collins
C: Bradbury / Elflein
RG: Kline / Collins
RT: O'Neill / Collins / Hill
That's a pretty solid group. One more good prospect would give us a ton of depth/flexibility.
Taylor played mostly on the right. What's interesting is that the guy who manned the left (Martez Ivey) is in this draft too. Probably won't be drafted though.
Reminds me of an argument I once had with a guy who tried to convince me that tackle A had to be better than tackle B because tackle A played on the left and tackle B played on the right.
Tackle A: Matt Kalil
Tackle B: Tyron Smith
But back to pumpf's question... depending on how the draft falls, I would be fine with a TE, WR, OL, or DL in no particular order. There are still a ton of potential Day 1 contributors at those positions.
This draft is falling very nicely the Vikings... the positions we need to address are still pretty deep with talent. We might even be able to trade down from 50 to get another mid-round pick and still get a guy we like. That might be my preference at this point.
I'm a Deebo Samuel nut and would be ecstatic if he were the pick. That said, I'm kinda liking this OL thing. It's new, unfamiliar, exciting. I want more.
The problem is that the 2nd round tackles (McGary, Howard) went in the 1st. There's a dead zone now at tackle. Who knows what happens with Taylor. Not very likely Risner or Ford lasts until 50. Do we trade Waynes to move up for one? What does the team think of Greg Little? Top 10 tools, 5th round head. Same story for Edoga. Max Scharping is intriguing but is probably a guard.
Some really nice IOL players on day two if we want to go there again. DT too.
O-line dipped down the board a little in round one so there are quite a few guys who are a good value in the 2nd. Tonight I think the big question is whether the run on CB's or WR's start first. If the run on WR's begin they probably will need to look at a TE or WR in round two. If not, maybe a D-lineman. Lots of flexibility. I wouldn't be shocked to see them drop back from #50 to get another mid-round selection.
I believe we are done with IOL for at least a bit. Then again, I didn't see them taking a C over a T yesterday either. So who knows. The field is wide open, with a ton of very talented guys in round 2 and round 3. A trade back in 2 is my first guess. I think Rick wants that missing 5th round pick back. CB's have barely been touched. Safety is still very much in play. TE and WR depth is rock solid in the next few rounds. Hell, even a RB could be a fit. Even though I'd personally prefer we hold off until at least the 4th for one. I'm 100% against a Greg Little selection, so that's probably who we'll take :)
With help for the OL, it feels easier to say BPA. If DK Metcalf was still there, that's pretty tempting. I would also be happy to see another OL, and since we're emphasizing scheme fit (zone blocking), wouldn't Erik McCoy make more sense than Cody Ford?
@"Jor-El" said: With help for the OL, it feels easier to say BPA. If DK Metcalf was still there, that's pretty tempting. I would also be happy to see another OL, and since we're emphasizing scheme fit (zone blocking), wouldn't Erik McCoy make more sense than Cody Ford?McCoy would be my choice if we want to double dip at OL in the first two rounds. Good all-around player. He is also versatile enough to play C/OG and fits into the position flexibility mold that the Vikings like in their offensive linemen.
I just don't know where that leaves Elflein if we take another interior guy. Heck, we're all speculating that Bradbury is now our starting C, but maybe the Vikings drafted him to be a LG? Who knows...
@"Wetlander" said:@"Jor-El" said: With help for the OL, it feels easier to say BPA. If DK Metcalf was still there, that's pretty tempting. I would also be happy to see another OL, and since we're emphasizing scheme fit (zone blocking), wouldn't Erik McCoy make more sense than Cody Ford? McCoy would be my choice if we want to double dip at OL in the first two rounds. Good all-around player. He is also versatile enough to play C/OG and fits into the position flexibility mold that the Vikings like in their offensive linemen.I just don't know where that leaves Elflein if we take another interior guy. Heck, we're all speculating that Bradbury is now our starting C, but maybe the Vikings drafted him to be a LG? Who knows...
I think it would work itself out fine. No need to be penciling Josh Kline in for any long term duty.
@"Wetlander" said:@"Jor-El" said: With help for the OL, it feels easier to say BPA. If DK Metcalf was still there, that's pretty tempting. I would also be happy to see another OL, and since we're emphasizing scheme fit (zone blocking), wouldn't Erik McCoy make more sense than Cody Ford? McCoy would be my choice if we want to double dip at OL in the first two rounds. Good all-around player. He is also versatile enough to play C/OG and fits into the position flexibility mold that the Vikings like in their offensive linemen.I just don't know where that leaves Elflein if we take another interior guy. Heck, we're all speculating that Bradbury is now our starting C, but maybe the Vikings drafted him to be a LG? Who knows...
I wouldn't hesitate to take McCoy. But if I did I might trade Elflein to a power team. I'm not a big fan of the day-two value at tackle. It's really good at DT, TE and WR though.
Samia, Powers and Davis should all still be available in the 3rd. All have potential to push either Elf or Kline to the bench and Isadora off the team.
Unless Risner, McCoy or Ford falls I'd definitely look to WR, TE or D-Line at #50.
@"FSUVike" said: Samia, Powers and Davis should all still be available in the 3rd. All have potential to push either Elf or Kline to the bench and Isadora off the team.Unless Risner, McCoy or Ford falls I'd definitely look to WR, TE or D-Line at #50.
This. Totally agree.
I chose DL. I am seriously no guru but it seems we got shoved around in both trenches last season. So if we could grab a athletic DL I think I'd be pretty happy. I would try and grab another OL for some depth maybe round 4.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-day-2-of-the-2019-nfl-draft-is-loaded-with-talent-at-cornerback
Whoa. Some serious talent left after some serious reaches yesterday. Some drool-worthy Safeties on there. Ant Harris is in the last year of his deal...
TE and WR sweet spot as well. Not a stretch to say Minnesota could come away with a guy at #50 who's better than 4 or 5 guys who went in the 1st.
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