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Dolphins negotiations with Teddy Bridgewater seem to favor QB. Will team blink?

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The team on Wednesday night finished a visit with New Orleans Saints backup quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. So the Dolphins want the former Northwestern High standout and Miami native to be their starter.
And I assume Bridgewater’s visit included all the requisite niceties of a meet and greet with coaches, a meal, and a tour of the team’s Davie facility.
The Dolphins, by the way, are traditionally really good at this stuff because they typically take their prospective players to a swanky Fort Lauderdale restaurant they have visited for decades. And they say all the right things, as they have for decades.
They can also trot out Dan Marino for swag purposes.
The Dolphins have always been a hit with players doing this.
But after the courting ends, the process must invariably transition to a contract negotiation. And in that, the Dolphins are royally and utterly, um, in trouble.
Because Bridgewater and his camp have the team by the, um, negotiating advantage.
These are the reasons:
The Dolphins are in the strange position of needing a starting quarterback but not wanting to pay full freight for one in free agency because veteran starting quarterbacks — even the unremarkable ones — cost $16 million annually and up. 
The reason the Dolphins don’t want to pay that much is partly because they’re going to carry at minimum some $7 million in dead money on the Ryan Tannehill contract and mostly because what they intend is to eventually draft their real starting quarterback of the future — either this draft or the next.
So the team is hoping to win on several fronts. Miami wants to find a veteran starter, pay him below NFL market value, draft Rookie Franchise QB guy and let the situation between those two players develop however it may over the next year or two.
The problem is no available veteran quarterback has been seeing things like the Dolphins were seeing things before Wednesday. No one has cooperated.
The Dolphins apparently approached Bridgewater days ago, and whatever happened in those talks only convinced Bridgewater’s camp to leak to the NFL Network that Bridgewater was going back to New Orleans as the backup and heir to Drew Brees.
The Dolphins, I’m told, had another starter option in Tyrod Taylor. Except Taylor has experience with the idea of signing to be a team’s starter and then being summarily replaced by a prized rookie. It happened to him last year in Cleveland with Baker Mayfield.
Taylor didn’t want to do that again, especially at a below-market salary for a starter.
So rather than become the Miami Dolphins’ bridge starter, Taylor signed instead with the San Diego Chargers to be the backup to Phillip Rivers. 
Well, the Dolphins still had channels of conversation open with Bridgewater. And this is where it’s going to get interesting.
Last year when Bridgewater was searching for a team, the Dolphins were the first team to reach out to him. The full details of that exchange were in this space last August. But the key element was that Bridgewater’s agent wanted a one-year deal for $15 million.
That’s what Bridgewater wanted when the idea was for him to merely compete for a starting job or be the backup.
If that was the asking price in that situation, what do you think the price is going to be now that Bridgewater would be coming to Miami as the unquestioned starter? 
Yeah, not less.
And you know what? He has a point. 
Bridgewater could easily expect a contract that guarantees he will get $16 million per year each of the next two years. And, yes, I said guarantees, not empty numbers that sound big but never get paid out.
Guarantees.
Because any starting quarterback a team has a conviction about usually gets a longer-term deal — typically four years — which guarantees the player will be around at least two years before the team can vacate the agreement without a huge salary cap backlash.
So Bridgewater’s agent obviously wants to make sure his client doesn’t find himself next year in the situation Taylor found himself in after his Cleveland experience.
The Dolphins were probably hoping to sign their veteran starting quarterback for maybe half the $16 million annual number and perhaps throw in a ton of incentives that inflated the maximum value of a contract to look like it paid $16 million to $18 million per season.
I don’t think that’s going to work for Bridgewater.
Oh, he will want the incentives, too. He will want incentives for hitting a certain number of starts, touchdown passes and other performance markers. But he’s going to want that atop the guaranteed money because if he comes to Miami this might be his best and only chance to get such a deal.
If Bridgewater can’t get that deal from the Dolphins he can always go back to New Orleans and wait out the 40-year-old Brees. or try to hit the market again next year and find a better situation.
The Dolphins, meanwhile, can accept Bridgewater’s demands or hold the line and move on to another name in the veteran bridge quarterback pool.
So we’re going to have an interesting negotiation play out.
Be interesting to see who blinks
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article227680629.html

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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I feel like incentives don't seem likely to be earned if the team is looking to bring in a rookie that will probably take your job.

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Best thing for Bridgewater in Miami is that they only have the 13th pick in a weak year for QBs.

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@"Jor-El" said: Best thing for Bridgewater in Miami is that they only have the 13th pick in a weak year for QBs.


I keep asking myself if I'm a fan of the Gmen, should we have taken a qb instead of SQB???

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Jor-El" said: Best thing for Bridgewater in Miami is that they only have the 13th pick in a weak year for QBs.


I keep asking myself if I'm a fan of the Gmen, should we have taken a qb instead of SQB???


Maybe, though there are now rumors that Giants, with a lot of picks to trade, could acquire Josh Rosen. That's a smart young QB who could learn a lot from Pat Shurmur. So how would Rosen rank among QBs if he was dropped into this year's draft group?

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I'm only just over an hour from Hard Rock Stadium, I'll have to drive down and see Teddy. 

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@"StickyBun" said: I'm only just over an hour from Hard Rock Stadium, I'll have to drive down and see Teddy. 
I'm in your camp. I can root for Teddy in South Beach, not Nawlins...
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@"Jor-El" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Jor-El" said: Best thing for Bridgewater in Miami is that they only have the 13th pick in a weak year for QBs.


I keep asking myself if I'm a fan of the Gmen, should we have taken a qb instead of SQB???


Maybe, though there are now rumors that Giants, with a lot of picks to trade, could acquire Josh Rosen. That's a smart young QB who could learn a lot from Pat Shurmur. So how would Rosen rank among QBs if he was dropped into this year's draft group?

I thought I saw on NFL Network that Rosen would be 2 behind Haskins if they did that IIRC

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Teddy turns down Dolphins, will sign with the Saints. Just being reported.

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Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 
Kind of tells me that Sean knows that Drew isnt coming back in 2020
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@"MaroonBells" said: Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 
Looks like a serious long game:

Saints restructured Drew Brees' contract.The basic restructure turned some of Brees' salary into a signing bonus, creating $10.8 million in cap space. The move sends that $10.8 million hit into what will be a voided year in 2020, meaning Brees will count at least $21.3 million against the 2020 cap whether or not he is on the team. That hit will be tough to swallow, but the Saints are as win-now as any organization in the league.
SOURCE: New Orleans Times-Picayune

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@"Canthony" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 
Kind of tells me that Sean knows that Drew isnt coming back in 2020
I think Brees will still be the QB in 2020 in New Orleans.
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@"MaroonBells" said: Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 
So Teddy wants to be a career backup QB?  I guess someone has to, and you get rich too.  Most guys gunning for championships actually want to be playing in the games not on the sidelines cheering.  I'm not sure what he's thinking.  Is it more money in NO even as a backup?
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sounds ugly--sit behind him for another year and then if he leaves there is still nearly 20 mil on the books to ty your hands for there  the next year so fans will be griping to get the new shiny penny to replace ya

think long and hard teddy

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Perhaps Teddy was told he wasn't the future in Miami and that he was just there to mentor young haskins ?

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@"JimmyinSD" said: Perhaps Teddy was told he wasn't the future in Miami and that he was just there to mentor young haskins ?
Teddy wanted more money than Miami wanted to pay him. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: Perhaps Teddy was told he wasn't the future in Miami and that he was just there to mentor young haskins ?
Teddy wanted more money than Miami wanted to pay him. 
Is he making that money in nawlins?  He has the expectation of getting a decent team passed to him soon there, but no guarantees...what didn't Miami offer that the saints did?
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Interesting read from the Miami Herald on missing out on Bridgewater:

https://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article227821404.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Another:

https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/15/teddy-bridgewater-adds-insult-to-injury-in-spurning-dolphins/

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Canthony" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Wow, either Teddy is playing a serious long game or he's been talking to Tonya Harding. No doubt, New Orleans is a much better situation, but to be able to recognize that, and choose it over a starting job in his home town is pretty impressive. I hope it works out for him. 
Kind of tells me that Sean knows that Drew isnt coming back in 2020
I think Brees will still be the QB in 2020 in New Orleans.

Then why sign a one year deal with the Saints? That just doesn't make any sense to me.

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