That Chiefs defense leaves a lot to be desired...

Nothing new there,  they've been that way all season.  27th against the run 31st against the pass.  Run would likely be worse except teams would have to abandon it early to try and keep up with that Chiefs offense.  

50 TDs and 5000 yards makes up for a lot of defensive deficiencies in today's NFL QB rules world. 

I honestly expect them to spend more time looking for a replacement for Hunt on the offensive side of the ball and maybe some better wide outs that are crisper in their routes opposite of Hill so that teams cant load the box and double Hill.  They needed to get their receivers in motion at the snap more than they did last night,  that sideline opposite of Hill was there all night the way the pats were playing D.  Reids biggest failure was not taking a page from belicheat and to keep doing something until the opposition changes what they are doing to stop it.

@"StickyBun" said: 50 TDs and 5000 yards makes up for a lot of defensive deficiencies in today's NFL QB rules world. 

And KC with Mahomes will most likely win a SB someday. Maybe I've been too jaded (scarred?) by history, but last nights AFC CG smacked of 98 to me. 

Great offense, mediocre D - same result too. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said: 50 TDs and 5000 yards makes up for a lot of defensive deficiencies in today's NFL QB rules world. 

No doubt..

And KC with Mahomes will most likely win a SB someday. Maybe I've been too jaded (scarred?) by history, but last nights AFC CG smacked of 98 to me. 

Great offense, mediocre D - same result too. 

@"JimmyinSD" said: Nothing new there,  they've been that way all season.  27th against the run 31st against the pass.  Run would likely be worse except teams would have to abandon it early to try and keep up with that Chiefs offense.  

@"holmanjp" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Nothing new there,  they've been that way all season.  27th against the run 31st against the pass.  Run would likely be worse except teams would have to abandon it early to try and keep up with that Chiefs offense.  

How many of those yards/points were allowed in 4th quarter when they were up multiple scores already?

Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

In all fairness, the Chiefs game did go into overtime. And they are playing the GOAT in both HC and QB, too in New England. One young 'offensive genius' is in the Superbowl (McVay). Wouldn't dump on them quite yet. 

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

They couldn't stop the run. Lord knows Vikings fans know that feeling over the years.
In fairness, the Pats only scored 14 in the first half and the explosive offense of the Chiefs only scored 0.
Chiefs left way too much time for Brady at the end. And the Chiefs couldn't get much pressure, nor cover Edelman.
As mentioned, a lot like the 98 Vikings and Denny Green teams.

@"holmanjp" said:

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

Andy isn't that young, and McVay is going to SB vs old man Peyton going.

well the vikings defense sure isnt winning any titles either. for all the good stats, could not get a stop against any of the good teams they played in 2018.

@"Ralphie" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

Andy isn't that young, and McVay is going to SB vs old man Peyton going.

Not a comment on Reid per se but the rest of the new breed of offensive wunderkinds that the league is enamored with.  Again, nothing wrong in averaging 35 points but not giving up 38 is nice.

Reid got outcoached plain and simple. The weakness with his O-Line was in the middle, especially with their RG with the two french last names being out.

So Belicheat runs games and sends extra rushers straight up the gut the whole first half and Reid/Bienemy kept dialing up long shots instead of attackin the Patriots on the boundaries.

If Brees had seen that Defense he would have thrown a dozen passes to Kamara until Belicheat reacted.

Now maybe Mahomes was too gunslinger but a lot of those plays in the first half were designed to go deep to either a double covered Hill or Kelce.

If Andy had adjusted before halftime the Chiefs would have put up a lot more points.

There's a reason his Championship Game record stinks and we saw it last night.

@"jargomcfargo" said: They couldn't stop the run. Lord knows Vikings fans know that feeling over the years. In fairness, the Pats only scored 14 in the first half and the explosive offense of the Chiefs only scored 0. Chiefs left way too much time for Brady at the end. And the Chiefs couldn't get much pressure, nor cover Edelman. As mentioned, a lot like the 98 Vikings and Denny Green teams.

@"greediron" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said: They couldn't stop the run. Lord knows Vikings fans know that feeling over the years. In fairness, the Pats only scored 14 in the first half and the explosive offense of the Chiefs only scored 0. Chiefs left way too much time for Brady at the end. And the Chiefs couldn't get much pressure, nor cover Edelman. As mentioned, a lot like the 98 Vikings and Denny Green teams.

Way too much time.  And then inexplicably opted to kick the tying FG with plenty of time left for another shot at the endzone.  When it came down to it, he trusted his D more than his young QB?  Or maybe he counted on winning the coin toss.
Understand that a sack ended the game, but something quick to the endzone?  Thought that was playing scared. 

Ouch...

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"Ralphie" said: Yup.  And why I knew they wouldn't be playing in February.  Great offenses and these "young offensive geniuses", still need to know how to get a three and out once in a while.  

Andy isn't that young, and McVay is going to SB vs old man Peyton going.

Not a comment on Reid per se but the rest of the new breed of offensive wunderkinds that the league is enamored with.  Again, nothing wrong in averaging 35 points but not giving up 38 is nice.

I am a long standing card carrying member of the Defense Wins Championships Organization.... but its hard to argue against  the top offenses were in the championship games and the top defenses are playing golf.