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Report: Hue Jackson candidate for Vikings OC / CBS Sports

1:19 PM - 2 Jan 2019  Rotoworld.

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#1 · Jan 2, 11:27 AM
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@"TBro" said:
@"Vanguard83" said: https://apple.news/A2csN_WXmTaGTIX8FKTfp-Q

read it and weap


Sums it up nicely which is exactly why Zimmer will probably hire him. 

From the article: "In eight full NFL seasons as either an offensive coordinator or head coach, Jackson had more finishes outside the top 20 in total yards (four) than inside the top 10 (two). Those top-10 marks came in 2010 and 2011 with the Raiders. Since then, a Jackson-helmed offense didn't finish higher than 15th, and the average season finish was 19th in total yards."
Great Odin's ghost!  Lord, don't hire this guy... :(

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@"JimmyinSD" said: PA said he has it from good authority that HJ isnt getting hired for the OC position.  Rooney rule situation?

Little trust in PA's info. Does the Rooney rule apply aside from HC positions?
After reading Zimmer's press conference comments, I'm betting on Hue getting the job. Zimmer talked about how he needed Sparano around, and I realized that 2018 was the first season in which Zimmer had no former head coaches on his staff. (Norv 2014-early 2016, Sparano and Shurmer 2015-17). I think he believes he needs the consult of someone he considers a peer. Maybe he's right. And Hue is an old friend who needs a job.

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#23 · Jan 4, 12:29 PM
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I'd rather have Hugh Jackman as OC.

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@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: PA said he has it from good authority that HJ isnt getting hired for the OC position.  Rooney rule situation?

Little trust in PA's info. Does the Rooney rule apply aside from HC positions?
After reading Zimmer's press conference comments, I'm betting on Hue getting the job. Zimmer talked about how he needed Sparano around, and I realized that 2018 was the first season in which Zimmer had no former head coaches on his staff. (Norv 2014-early 2016, Sparano and Shurmer 2015-17). I think he believes he needs the consult of someone he considers a peer. Maybe he's right. And Hue is an old friend who needs a job.



I think you are definitely on to something with your take. I also think that since he feels he was burned with the decision to bring on a young coordinator like Flip, he will dismiss Stefanski again as a legitimate candidate. Based on his comments earlier this year, he doesn't seem to have any respect for the younger coordinators and coaches who are bringing their analytics and misdirection offenses to the NFL. If he truly wanted Stefanski as his coordinator, he would have promoted him to the permanent position after Flip was canned. Stefanski is as good as gone in my opinion. 

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@"StickyBun" said: I'd rather have Hugh Jackman as OC.
Me too. I could definitely work with that. :)
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If this actually comes to fruition, it is just further proof of how incredibly arrogant Ricky and Mikey have become.

The Wilf's are obviously desperate to emulate the whole "longevity" thing, a la the Steelers (and to some extent, the Giants), and Ricky has masterfully mis-directed their attention (just like all great magicians) towards EVERYTHING besides PLAYOFF SUCCESS. 

L'il Ricky KNOWS that as long as the faceless masses of Viking fans continue to lap up the same bullshit soup he ladles out EVERY offseason, he's safe. The Wilf's are first and foremost BUSINESS men, make no mistake. I'm not doubting their sincerity to win a championship, mind you, just pointing out that the ring of the cash register is more important than the ring of a Super Bowl champion. 

Keep on buying tickets, keep on buying jerseys, keep up with the blind faith. The Wilf's and Schpielman are laughing all the way to the bank on YOUR dime.

We're stuck with Zimwit and St. Ricky for 2019, all I can do is HOPE for the best. Unfortunately, almost 50 years of Vikings fan experience tells me what to expect (and this is BEFORE the inevitable desperate "effort" to fix the OL, LOL! As if that HASN'T been an issue previously!)....9-7, maybe 10-6. Possibly sneaking into the playoffs, but ultimately delivering yet ANOTHER Schpielman Special....a playoff WINLESS season. This result has happened 11 out of 13 seasons with Ricky in charge of scouting and personnel. There is NOTHING to suggest that season 14 will be ANY different.

WASH. RINSE. REPEAT.

RICKY. GOTTA. GO.

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Will lose all faith in Zimmer and the Vikings if they go with Hugh.  Also another thread about working to resign Pfieffer...why?

Would rather have a new coach hiring his own staff if this is the situation. 

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@"Vikergirl" said:
@"StickyBun" said: I'd rather have Hugh Jackman as OC.
Me too. I could definitely work with that. :)
Probably be a little more aggressive in his play calling:

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#29 · Jan 5, 8:54 AM
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The way Zim goes through OCs, I doubt we get a top tier guy...

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#30 · Jan 5, 9:15 AM
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Jeff Fisher is out there too...  ;)

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#31 · Jan 5, 11:46 AM
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@"BarrNone55" said: The way Zim goes through OCs, I doubt we get a top tier guy...
That's why it makes sense to keep Stefanski. If they want to add Jackson as a position coach, so he was someone experienced on the staff, then so be it, but Jackson should not be running the offense.
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I assume we are likely stuck regarding OC until the HC hirings shake out. Not sure if Stefanski is a serious candidate for HC elsewhere but he could wait to see if some new HC wants him. Unless he is tremendously moved by Zimmer's statements about loyalty..

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Why all the negativity for Zimmer?  I keep reading comments that the game has passed him by...  He goes through OCs like a man whore...  Etc...

Last I checked, he hired an experienced OC when he first became HC so he could focus on fixing the defense.  Norv was too rigid in his scheme and finally resigned after 2.5 seasons when the offense was in the bottom 3rd of the league...  It's not like he ran off a guy who was frequently fielding a top 10 offense.

Then Shurmur came in and gave us our best offense in years...  So good that a team wanted to give him another shot as a HC...  So that's Zimmer's fault one of his assistants did so well he got a HC gig?

Then he hired Flip who proved he was too pass happy and the offense struggled to score in the red zone and Zimmer fired him.  Meanwhile, look at the teams who made the playoffs...

The run-first Ravens, the balanced Chargers and Saints and Patriots, the Seahawks who led the league in rushing , and the Bears and Cowboys who won with a great rushing attack and defense. 

Maybe Zimmer isn't so out of touch with reality...  You have to be able to run the football and play good defense to win Championships.  We finally have a QB who is good enough of a passer to give us a balanced offense...  let's run the ball a little more and see what happens.

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@"Wetlander" said: Why all the negativity for Zimmer?  I keep reading comments that the game has passed him by...  He goes through OCs like a man whore...  Etc...

Last I checked, he hired an experienced OC when he first became HC so he could focus on fixing the defense.  Norv was too rigid in his scheme and finally resigned after 2.5 seasons when the offense was in the bottom 3rd of the league...  It's not like he ran off a guy who was frequently fielding a top 10 offense.

Then Shurmur came in and gave us our best offense in years...  So good that a team wanted to give him another shot as a HC...  So that's Zimmer's fault one of his assistants did so well he got a HC gig?

Then he hired Flip who proved he was too pass happy and the offense struggled to score in the red zone and Zimmer fired him.  Meanwhile, look at the teams who made the playoffs...

The run-first Ravens, the balanced Chargers and Saints and Patriots, the Seahawks who led the league in rushing , and the Bears and Cowboys who won with a great rushing attack and defense. 

Maybe Zimmer isn't so out of touch with reality...  You have to be able to run the football and play good defense to win Championships.  We finally have a QB who is good enough of a passer to give us a balanced offense...  let's run the ball a little more and see what happens.


I agree Wetlander, of course I’m in the winter drinking thread tonight...!  B)

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@"Wetlander" said: Why all the negativity for Zimmer?  I keep reading comments that the game has passed him by...  He goes through OCs like a man whore...  Etc...

Last I checked, he hired an experienced OC when he first became HC so he could focus on fixing the defense.  Norv was too rigid in his scheme and finally resigned after 2.5 seasons when the offense was in the bottom 3rd of the league...  It's not like he ran off a guy who was frequently fielding a top 10 offense.

Then Shurmur came in and gave us our best offense in years...  So good that a team wanted to give him another shot as a HC...  So that's Zimmer's fault one of his assistants did so well he got a HC gig?

Then he hired Flip who proved he was too pass happy and the offense struggled to score in the red zone and Zimmer fired him.  Meanwhile, look at the teams who made the playoffs...

The run-first Ravens, the balanced Chargers and Saints and Patriots, the Seahawks who led the league in rushing , and the Bears and Cowboys who won with a great rushing attack and defense. 

Maybe Zimmer isn't so out of touch with reality...  You have to be able to run the football and play good defense to win Championships.  We finally have a QB who is good enough of a passer to give us a balanced offense...  let's run the ball a little more and see what happens.


Thats all fine and good, but you better have the Oline to impose your will on other teams if you are going to consistently run the ball.

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@"minny65" said: Will lose all faith in Zimmer and the Vikings if they go with Hugh.  Also another thread about working to resign Pfieffer...why?

Would rather have a new coach hiring his own staff if this is the situation. 

OK, I am slowly moving back from the ledge from my post above last week.  We get Stefanski back and NOT Hugh!

Looks like we are moving on from Priefer today as well.

2 good early decisions by Zimmer IMO.  I was ready to jump off the Zimmer bandwagon but I am back on with a very critical eye.  The lack of heart/passion I saw from this Zimmer led team all last year has really burned my ass after 43+ years as a supportive ($$$ and passion) Viking fan...SKOL.

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@"minny65" said:
@"minny65" said: Will lose all faith in Zimmer and the Vikings if they go with Hugh.  Also another thread about working to resign Pfieffer...why?

Would rather have a new coach hiring his own staff if this is the situation. 

OK, I am slowly moving back from the ledge from my post above last week.  We get Stefanski back and NOT Hugh!

Looks like we are moving on from Priefer today as well.

2 good early decisions by Zimmer IMO.  I was ready to jump off the Zimmer bandwagon but I am back on with a very critical eye.  The lack of heart/passion I saw from this Zimmer led team all last year has really burned my ass after 43+ years as a supportive ($$$ and passion) Viking fan...SKOL.



I am giving Zimmer a pass on this last season,  I think him and Tony were really close friends and I can speak first hand on losing a close friend unexpectedly,  it weighs on a person very heavily at first and only gets easier with time.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"minny65" said:
@"minny65" said: Will lose all faith in Zimmer and the Vikings if they go with Hugh.  Also another thread about working to resign Pfieffer...why?

Would rather have a new coach hiring his own staff if this is the situation. 

OK, I am slowly moving back from the ledge from my post above last week.  We get Stefanski back and NOT Hugh!

Looks like we are moving on from Priefer today as well.

2 good early decisions by Zimmer IMO.  I was ready to jump off the Zimmer bandwagon but I am back on with a very critical eye.  The lack of heart/passion I saw from this Zimmer led team all last year has really burned my ass after 43+ years as a supportive ($$$ and passion) Viking fan...SKOL.



I am giving Zimmer a pass on this last season,  I think him and Tony were really close friends and I can speak first hand on losing a close friend unexpectedly,  it weighs on a person very heavily at first and only gets easier with time.


That really had a ripple effect on the team. Loss takes time to cope with. 

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