I never want to hear Compton and Remmers's names again

A-f******-men.  Every time I hear their names it's one or both giving up a sack or penalty.  They are horrible.

They tried. Good on em. But they gotta go. Best of luck 

I think that Remmers should be gone for sure. Not sure what happens with Compton though. He shouldn't be a starter, but I could see them claiming he performed admirably as a backup. I'd prefer to part ways with both though.

They both need to be replaced with at least competent NFL Guards.  Saying Compton is an acceptable backup is bullshit, he proved that over and over this season.

Isadora must be terrible if he can't beat either of these bums out.

@"kmillard" said: Isadora must be terrible if he can't beat either of these bums out.

...and we gave up a 7th round pick for Jones.  He must suck too.  Because neither one has seen the field of late.

.....even if you heard their names associated with "released"?????

@"Vanguard83" said: .....even if you heard their names associated with "released"?????

It would be a joyous passing moment...

Yeah, what is up with Isadora?  Is he really that bad?

How about if the name is followed by "released"?  Waived or released seems fitting for their style of play.

@"Ponifan" said: Yeah, what is up with Isadora?  Is he really that bad?

Ever run chutes in football practice in high school? Ever see someone who couldn't?  That's Danny Isadora.

@"Vanguard83" said: .....even if you heard their names associated with "released"?????

I stand corrected.  I want to only hear their names exactly 1 more time.

@"Ponifan" said: Yeah, what is up with Isadora?  Is he really that bad?

He was another day 3 lineman drafted by the folks who selected David Yankey, Jeff Baca, and Willie Beavers. What did you expect?

I will never understand why they moved Remmers (who was average at RT) to RG, where he flat-out sucked.  And then they replaced him with Hill, who was worse than Remmers at RT.  We saw that last year vs. New Orleans.  But rather than recognize their mistake, they doubled-down on it this year.  I have serious doubts about the coaching staff's ability to judge OL talent.

@"pumpf" said: I will never understand why they moved Remmers (who was average at RT) to RG, where he flat-out sucked.  And then they replaced him with Hill, who was worse than Remmers at RT.  We saw that last year vs. New Orleans.  But rather than recognize their mistake, they doubled-down on it this year.  I have serious doubts about the coaching staff's ability to judge OL talent.

I totally agree with you. Their history of drafting and development has been bad during Spielman's tenure, but how do you explain the play of O'Neil who everyone thought was a total panic pick because they missed out on all of the talented OLineman in last year's draft? He seems like a determined young man, but coaching and development has to play into it at some point. Then, someone like Gosset, our 6th round pick, couldn't crack our 53 and gets plucked from our practice squad to start for the Cardinals this year. All indications are that he performed well in his games for the Cardinals and may be the long term starter at LG. How did we let him get away? Was he even allowed to compete for a starting role or did the Head Coach dismiss the rookie in favor of the veterans in Remmers and Compton? Who the fuck knows. It makes zero sense yet this is where we find ourselves.  Lots of head scratching decisions by the coaching staff, scouts, and GM so you can't point the finger at just one person or thing that put us in this position.  

@"TBro" said:

@"pumpf" said: I will never understand why they moved Remmers (who was average at RT) to RG, where he flat-out sucked.  And then they replaced him with Hill, who was worse than Remmers at RT.  We saw that last year vs. New Orleans.  But rather than recognize their mistake, they doubled-down on it this year.  I have serious doubts about the coaching staff's ability to judge OL talent.

I totally agree with you. Their history of drafting and development has been bad during Spielman's tenure, but how do you explain the play of O'Neil who everyone thought was a total panic pick because they missed out on all of the talented OLineman in last year's draft? He seems like a determined young man, but coaching and development has to play into it at some point. Then, someone like Gosset, our 6th round pick, couldn't crack our 53 and gets plucked from our practice squad to start for the Cardinals this year. All indications are that he performed well in his games for the Cardinals and may be the long term starter at LG. How did we let him get away? Was he even allowed to compete for a starting role or did the Head Coach dismiss the rookie in favor of the veterans in Remmers and Compton? Who the fuck knows. It makes zero sense yet this is where we find ourselves.  Lots of head scratching decisions by the coaching staff, scouts, and GM so you can't point the finger at just one person or thing that put us in this position.  

@"TBro" said:

@"pumpf" said: I will never understand why they moved Remmers (who was average at RT) to RG, where he flat-out sucked.  And then they replaced him with Hill, who was worse than Remmers at RT.  We saw that last year vs. New Orleans.  But rather than recognize their mistake, they doubled-down on it this year.  I have serious doubts about the coaching staff's ability to judge OL talent.

I totally agree with you. Their history of drafting and development has been bad during Spielman's tenure, but how do you explain the play of O'Neil who everyone thought was a total panic pick because they missed out on all of the talented OLineman in last year's draft? He seems like a determined young man, but coaching and development has to play into it at some point. Then, someone like Gosset, our 6th round pick, couldn't crack our 53 and gets plucked from our practice squad to start for the Cardinals this year. All indications are that he performed well in his games for the Cardinals and may be the long term starter at LG. How did we let him get away? Was he even allowed to compete for a starting role or did the Head Coach dismiss the rookie in favor of the veterans in Remmers and Compton? Who the fuck knows. It makes zero sense yet this is where we find ourselves.  Lots of head scratching decisions by the coaching staff, scouts, and GM so you can't point the finger at just one person or thing that put us in this position.  

I like Remmers as a backup tackle if his contract can be
reduced to match the position downgrade. 
He’s a bad guard, but he’s a borderline starter at RT.  Would be perfect as the backup RT, who has
some capability to swing over to LT in an emergency.  Obviously he’s too expensive at his current
price to be a backup, but getting rid of him ends up being another hole to fill,
unless you want Hill there which is a downgrade.