So has Rogers tailed-off?

@"Viking1987" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: He has this year. But for anyone expecting some sort of age-related decline, you're in for a disappointment. He's 35, not 40. He's also been hurt, his offensive line has been playing hurt, his coaching staff is in shambles, and he has one NFL-caliber receiver. Context. 

not every  qb plays to a high level to there 40

He's not dog crap, but the team has turned into it. I think they are probably at least 2 years from legitimately being able to get the pieces back together with good management, and coaching. That puts Rodgers at 37. I think it's reasonable that we will start to see his skill set (legs) start to fade even more if he continues to take shots in the next year or so.

I don't think he has the will to keep taking a beating during a rebuild if it takes longer than 2 years. His team will quit on him when he starts to show his inner quitiness...

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Viking1987" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: He has this year. But for anyone expecting some sort of age-related decline, you're in for a disappointment. He's 35, not 40. He's also been hurt, his offensive line has been playing hurt, his coaching staff is in shambles, and he has one NFL-caliber receiver. Context. 

not every  qb plays to a high level to there 40

No, but each position has an age when age-related decline happens. And at QB, it ain't 35. 

He's down and an albatross on their cap...

I think he’s done being the elite game-changer that got the
Pack to the playoffs regardless of his situation.  I think he’s down on his situation, his recently
fired coach, the 13 pins in his collarbone (or however many).  I think he’s still a dangerous threat if they
put a solid team around him.  I’d still
take him over Cousins for the next 5 years. 
I think he’s got a tougher path to longevity in this league as so much
of his game has been based around his mobility. 
If he starts to get a touch slower, he’s going to have to change how he
plays, because he’ll get hit even more than he already does.

PFF did a good analysis on him on their youtube channel.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Viking1987" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: He has this year. But for anyone expecting some sort of age-related decline, you're in for a disappointment. He's 35, not 40. He's also been hurt, his offensive line has been playing hurt, his coaching staff is in shambles, and he has one NFL-caliber receiver. Context. 

not every  qb plays to a high level to there 40

No, but each position has an age when age-related decline happens. And at QB, it ain't 35. 

That's truer now with how much QBs are protected in today's NFL...  but Rodgers isn't the classic pocket passer like Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees are...  What makes him so great is his legs and ability to extend plays much like Russell Wilson.

It's not out of the question that his peak may be over.  Eli Manning has certainly declined the past 2 seasons despite all the offensive weapons around him and he's 37 right now.  Carson Palmer was out of the league at 37 because his play was declining and he couldn't stay healthy.  Those are just a few recent examples.

Rodgers has had to deal with a collarbone and knee injury the past two seasons...  He's certainly talented enough and smart enough to adjust his style of play, but what if he doesn't and he has another bad injury?

All I know is guys age differently and injuries play a factor when they decide to call it quits.  He's definitely not playing as well as he was just a couple seasons ago...

He'll never be the same since he got Barred

I think there is some truth to the wear and tear being a factor. We will see next year when he is 100% how much of a factor it truly is. His mobility has been compromised by the knee injury right now and his throwing ability is somewhat compromised as well. But his piss poor attitude is another thing getting in his way. He is a poor example when they are losing. He doesn't have the ability to rally his team. He is too busy making excuses and tossing out blame. He seems bored out there. Granted losing sucks but he doesn't seem to give a crap right now. He is fine when everything is going right but a true test of character is how you respond when things are not going well.

Can't hold it in any more...Although this goes against everything Ive tried to establish in terms of my credibility here rowing along with you good folks here on the longship...

I've finally decided to comment, beyond, "I don't care"

F Rogers, and F the Packers.

there.

I wouldn't write off Rodgers at all. Their team is a complete shell of what it was. They have some good young talent that should help elevate their defense in the coming years. If they can get Rodgers some offensive weapons he'll rebound. 

He has had amazing accuracy during his career. But he hasn't been so accurate sense the collarbone  surgery on his throwing shoulder. His age has made him susceptible to injury and he will be challenged to stay healthy.
But the team around him is crap.
He may be great again, but his window is closing rapidly.
And his competition is getting better.

He will still play well at times but its not 2011 anymore. The sports media is slow to figure that out.

He has transformed into Jay Cutler. Bad attitude all the time, constantly blaming others. The looks he gives those young receivers as they return to the huddle after a failed play can really foul up a young players attitude.

The media behaved like the ONLY reason they went 7-9 last year was due to the injury and immediately stuck them back up near the top in ranking and expectations coming into this year.  Apparently the team believed it too since they didn't do much to improve.  If anything it was a decline in talent.  The truth is they were a terrible team without Rodgers.  They won a few close games against crappy teams to bolster their confidence a bit but I'm not sure they would have won too many more with him. 

A not-quite-healthy Rodgers on a talent limited team wasn't going to set the world on fire this season.  He can still float around back there and when he's allowed to can fire the ball around.  I won't count him out with months of healing and if the actually DO try harder to improve the team.

It seems that once he got paid, he’s kind of just been along for the ride...  B) B) B)  

and I dont put much of his demise this year on that knee,  he milked that injury for all its worth,  he showed on numerous occasions that it didnt limit him... until he fucked up and then he was limping and hobbling around... hes a joke,  I dont know why he is as big of a dbag as he is,  but its going to tear down his legacy if he continues to age so ungraciously. 

@"JimmyinSD" said: and I dont put much of his demise this year on that knee,  he milked that injury for all its worth,  he showed on numerous occasions that it didnt limit him... until he fucked up and then he was limping and hobbling around... hes a joke,  I dont know why he is as big of a dbag as he is,  but its going to tear down his legacy if he continues to age so ungraciously. 

Couple that with the shitshow the team has become.  He doesn't have the trusted WRs that know how to got playground when he bails the pocket.  And the D is awful as usual.  Glad they kept the same people in charge up front.

They have some talented young defensive players, but the face....or rather hair...of the D needs to move along.  He's a one-trick pony at this point. 

I wouldn't shovel dirt on them for now but their off-season moves will tell a lot. Their pride was hurt this season so they may load up for one more run with #12.

From what little I've seen of GB this season, it appears the refs have soured on GB and
are now calling their games more fairly.  Take the roughing call on
Matthews that kept us alive at GB.  Any other season and we'd have ended the game asking for someone to explain how Kendricks drew a foul but Matthews didn't.  Instead they called both consistently. We've wanted that for decades and this season we got it.