Zimmer - Crap in our hands
I heard this remark from Zimmer on radio yesterday, and it sounded even more weird verbally than in print:
Q: The Seattle game is important to the playoff race. How will you address that with the team?A: I’ll let them know, but if we go out there and we beat Seattle,
who’s on a three game winning streak, if we beat them and we go out and
we crap in our hands the next three weeks, that doesn’t do us any good.
OK, I understand that Zimmer hates the media - though that's kind of a tired denial of reality for an NFL coach - and maybe he says a different message with his players...but really, WTF does this mean? Sounds like he's telling his players not to worry too much about Seattle because he thinks they might win there but then get beat at home by Miami or in Detroit. Essentially that he has no confidence.
Z is just saying beating Seattle is important, but there's 3 more games after that which are also vital. One game at a time. 'Crap in our hands' is a crude statement, not sure why it was necessary, but that's Z for better or worse.
My take on his comments is that every game is important from here out. Getting up for a team like the Seahags but letting up on lesser teams is not gonna get it done.
That and i't's pretty obvious this and every game is important, for him to tell his guys that this is the "superbowl" does not make sense and has the potential to put less emphisis on the next three games.
@"Ralphie" said: My take on his comments is that every game is important from here out. Getting up for a team like the Seahags but letting up on lesser teams is not gonna get it done.I 2nd this take. Zim just has a way with words.
So he doesn't want to make this a "must win" game. But what would be wrong with acknowledging that winning Monday would be a great opportunity to keep up with (or make up ground on) the Bears and also to defeat a key rival for a wildcard seat? It just feels like minimizing the game beforehand to better rationalize a loss afterwards.
And "crap in our hands" is also weird, not because it's vulgar, but because it suggests a real shoot-yourself-in-the-foot type of loss. A coach that worries his team might "fall short" has a very different perspective than one who thinks they might "crap in their hands".
People who "crap in their hands" usually need medication, so I agree. What is Zimmer trying to say?!?!?!?!?!?! Does he think this team is mentally distracted?!!!!!? Maybe someone in the locker room is throwing poop around?!?!? SPIELMAN!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
A crude way of saying if we get in our own way, we'll lose and that mental errors and carelessness will not get the job done. Win or go home.
i always heard “you can wish in one hand and crap in the other & see which one gets full”
but I dont think thats what he meant either ;)
I actually agree with Z on the Superbowl comment. If we lose this week we are out of the playoffs. With 4 games left, the next 3 are critical to win. We have to win all 3 and see how the rest of the league plays out, that is what we can control. Then when we face the Bears, it could very well be for the division and/or a playoff home game. We lose 1 of the next 3 and we are needing some help.
@"Kentis" said: https://youtu.be/j0HvyIcUx58I just love Jerry Burns.I keep wishing, however the returns have been mostly crap, unfortunately...
@"Ralphie" said: My take on his comments is that every game is important from here out. Getting up for a team like the Seahags but letting up on lesser teams is not gonna get it done.
This.
My thoughts: As long as you understand what he means, who cares how he says it???
Geez. I think I'm feeling really old as my 50th birthday approaches because anytime people want to call the PC police it makes me want to channel my inner Burgess Meredith (Pop Gustafson).
Oh, I should add that up until today I thought my grandma (bless her wonderful soul) coined the phrase "Wish in one hand and crap in the other." Maybe not though. Her version didn't include the word "crap." ;)
@"prairieghost" said:@"Ralphie" said: My take on his comments is that every game is important from here out. Getting up for a team like the Seahags but letting up on lesser teams is not gonna get it done.This.
My thoughts: As long as you understand what he means, who cares how he says it???
Geez. I think I'm feeling really old as my 50th birthday approaches because anytime people want to call the PC police it makes me want to channel my inner Burgess Meredith (Pop Gustafson).
Oh, I should add that up until today I thought my grandma (bless her wonderful soul) coined the phrase "Wish in one hand and crap in the other." Maybe not though. Her version didn't include the word "crap." ;)I didn't see anyone trying to "call the PC police". Like I said earlier: could not care less if it's "vulgar", but his phrase indicates Zimmer fears his team might lose some games because they shoot themselves in the foot, or "panic" or "had the jitters" (other recent comments he has made).
If the Vikings lose some games because the other team had better talent or a better gameplan or it was close but they got a few key breaks, I can accept it. But I am really frustrated by any suggestion they unexpectedly lose just because they were not mentally prepared to play or not focused. That's what "crap in our hands" means and it's just immature and undisciplined. This is a veteran team with a veteran coach, and this bullshit where sometimes they barely show up for games should be completely unacceptable to Zimmer. He shouldn't even suggest it's an acceptable possibility when he talks to the media and his team's fans. But his comments make it sound like he doesn't want to get too excited about beating Seattle (and controlling their own destiny to make the playoffs!) because he has no better idea than any of us whether "his" team will look great one week but the next week play like THEY are the crap in somebody's hands.
@"Jor-El" said:@"prairieghost" said:@"Ralphie" said: My take on his comments is that every game is important from here out. Getting up for a team like the Seahags but letting up on lesser teams is not gonna get it done.This.
My thoughts: As long as you understand what he means, who cares how he says it???
Geez. I think I'm feeling really old as my 50th birthday approaches because anytime people want to call the PC police it makes me want to channel my inner Burgess Meredith (Pop Gustafson).
Oh, I should add that up until today I thought my grandma (bless her wonderful soul) coined the phrase "Wish in one hand and crap in the other." Maybe not though. Her version didn't include the word "crap." ;)I didn't see anyone trying to "call the PC police". Like I said earlier: could not care less if it's "vulgar", but his phrase indicates Zimmer fears his team might lose some games because they shoot themselves in the foot, or "panic" or "had the jitters" (other recent comments he has made).
If the Vikings lose some games because the other team had better talent or a better gameplan or it was close but they got a few key breaks, I can accept it. But I am really frustrated by any suggestion they unexpectedly lose just because they were not mentally prepared to play or not focused. That's what "crap in our hands" means and it's just immature and undisciplined. This is a veteran team with a veteran coach, and this bullshit where sometimes they barely show up for games should be completely unacceptable to Zimmer. He shouldn't even suggest it's an acceptable possibility when he talks to the media and his team's fans. But his comments make it sound like he doesn't want to get too excited about beating Seattle (and controlling their own destiny to make the playoffs!) because he has no better idea than any of us whether "his" team will look great one week but the next week play like THEY are the crap in somebody's hands.
I guess I wasn’t analyzing the statements to the depth you have. I think Ralphie summed it up perfectly and in my opinion I think it’s what Zim meant.
Kirk Cousins today said " sustained the level of potential in this locker room."
Isn't that an odd phrasing? Not offense, not defense, locker room. Does Kirk regret signing here?! He is basically saying the team isn't as good as he thought when he signed. So if that's the case then how does that affect his performance and preparation week in and out? The season is not even over and he's basically saying we should be better.
Is he leading or dividing?
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@"BlackMagic7" said: Kirk Cousins today said " sustained the level of potential in this locker room."Isn't that an odd phrasing? Not offense, not defense, locker room. Does Kirk regret signing here?! He is basically saying the team isn't as good as he thought when he signed. So if that's the case then how does that affect his performance and preparation week in and out? The season is not even over and he's basically saying we should be better.
Is he leading or dividing?
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whoa !
reading alot into common “coach speak/cliche” talk here
basically said they are not palying up to their potential
Gotta give 110%
No I in team etc.
@"BlackMagic7" said: Kirk Cousins today said " sustained the level of potential in this locker room."Isn't that an odd phrasing? Not offense, not defense, locker room. Does Kirk regret signing here?! He is basically saying the team isn't as good as he thought when he signed. So if that's the case then how does that affect his performance and preparation week in and out? The season is not even over and he's basically saying we should be better.
Is he leading or dividing?
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neither. He is saying, we have potential to be much better, but we haven't shown that consistently. Pretty mild statement IMO. Even when they win, most athletes will say they should be better.
@"Maple Surple" said:@"BlackMagic7" said: Kirk Cousins today said " sustained the level of potential in this locker room."Isn't that an odd phrasing? Not offense, not defense, locker room. Does Kirk regret signing here?! He is basically saying the team isn't as good as he thought when he signed. So if that's the case then how does that affect his performance and preparation week in and out? The season is not even over and he's basically saying we should be better.
Is he leading or dividing?
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whoa !
reading alot into common “coach speak/cliche” talk here
basically said they are not palying up to their potential
Gotta give 110%
No I in team etc.
lol, well the quote is real... the rest was a poor attempt at satire.It's too much fun to take it literally...
Perhaps Zimmer views himself as the Waste Processor. Shit needs to come through the pipe so he can collect it and do his job. When shit stops coming through the pipe it get's hard and stuck in there and then Zimmer has to shut down the plant for a week to unclog it.
The guys see Zimmer constantly shutting the facility down and now they just keep crapping in their hands to keep the facility open?
two things.
1) zimmer used a common american phrase in a different way. it doesnt matter if we are good in one game, if we shit the bed in the last three.
2) the word crap should never be referred to as “vulgar”. saying that it is/could be, is a pretty good example of modern PC over-sensitivity.
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