Would you switch John DeFilippo for Mike McCarthy

No.  I don't see why anyone would have Flip at the top of their list right now anyway, but how about we keep our offensive coaches and QB together for more than a year and see if the consistency helps. 

Not sure McCarthy is the guy. He's always been quick to abandon the run.

But why does JDF get to 'grow on the job' with a team in a SB window?

He's already had 12 games worth of experience and actually seems to be getting worse. And he had a year of being an OC previously.

I've made this point before but Minnesota is in a very different place than the Rams when they hired McBabyface or the Bears when the hired Nagy. Both teams were rebuilding and had QBs on Rookie Deals.

Rick and Mike bet the farm on Kirk. They can't afford to wait and hope JDF develops as an OC. If he doesn't pan out it likely means they are going down with him.

Not sure McCarthy is the guy. He's always been quick to abandon the run.

But why does JDF get to 'grow on the job' with a team in a SB window?

He's already had 12 games worth of experience and actually seems to be getting worse. And he had a year of being an OC previously.

I've made this point before but Minnesota is in a very different place than the Rams when they hired McBabyface or the Bears when the hired Nagy. Both teams were rebuilding and had QBs on Rookie Deals.

Rick and Mike bet the farm on Kirk. They can't afford to wait and hope JDF develops as an OC. If he doesn't pan out it likely means they are going down with him.

I voted yes.  I'm not sure McCarthy would be my first and only candidate, but I'd settle with him over DeFlipper.  Flip seems to be in over his head.

I chose the third option.   I think if they want to give an OC time to learn.. let Stefanski,  otherwise I would like to see what else is out there before handing the job to mcfatty... its not like we have a good track record of picking up green bay trash....  outside of Longwell those stories dont typically have great endings.

@"greediron" said: No.  I don't see why anyone would have Flip at the top of their list right now anyway, but how about we keep our offensive coaches and QB together for more than a year and see if the consistency helps. 

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"greediron" said: No.  I don't see why anyone would have Flip at the top of their list right now anyway, but how about we keep our offensive coaches and QB together for more than a year and see if the consistency helps. 

I'm in favor of no major changes this year to the staff. Maybe ST and OL coaches. I think in honesty you roll next year with what we got. If it fails then you are rebuilding. Then the new coach has one year with Kirk to decide if that's who he wants. That seems better then big changes that will not take effect next year anyhow. 1st year coaches do take time.

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"greediron" said: No.  I don't see why anyone would have Flip at the top of their list right now anyway, but how about we keep our offensive coaches and QB together for more than a year and see if the consistency helps. 

I'm in favor of no major changes this year to the staff. Maybe ST and OL coaches. I think in honesty you roll next year with what we got. If it fails then you are rebuilding. Then the new coach has one year with Kirk to decide if that's who he wants. That seems better then big changes that will not take effect next year anyhow. 1st year coaches do take time.

I wouldn't risk the window on Stefanski either. He could experience the exact same learning curve.

An experienced OC can turn this around fast. Did it take Carolina long to implement old Norv's system? Nope. Cam is still inaccurate and their Defense got old fast, but Uncle Norv unlocked McCaffery's potential fast, despite having Matt Kalil as his LT.

I won't pretend to know who's going to be available, but turning to another unproven dude just doesn't seem prudent to me.

@"FSUVike" said: I wouldn't risk the window on Stefanski either. He could experience the exact same learning curve.

An experienced OC can turn this around fast. Did it take Carolina long to implement old Norv's system? Nope. Cam is still inaccurate and their Defense got old fast, but Uncle Norv unlocked McCaffery's potential fast, despite having Matt Kalil as his LT.

I won't pretend to know who's going to be available, but turning to another unproven dude just doesn't seem prudent to me.

I do have to wonder why they blocked Stefanski from interviewing. And if McCarthy is the first option outside the team, that is absolutely depressing.

Oh hell yeah----I mean remember the KAO mc duddy produced last year when 12 folded.   Your first thought has to be "now that's some real coaching, hope we get a shot at that."

@"FSUVike" said: I wouldn't risk the window on Stefanski either. He could experience the exact same learning curve.

An experienced OC can turn this around fast. Did it take Carolina long to implement old Norv's system? Nope. Cam is still inaccurate and their Defense got old fast, but Uncle Norv unlocked McCaffery's potential fast, despite having Matt Kalil as his LT.

I won't pretend to know who's going to be available, but turning to another unproven dude just doesn't seem prudent to me.

The Pukers have had some of the lousiest running offenses under McCarthy as they built that team for Erin only.  I don't want the stench of any offense McCarthy was involved with near the Vikes.

@"VikingOracle" said: Rumor has DeFilippo as one of the favorites for the Packer's job (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/12/3/18124958/john-defilippo-early-favorite-green-bay-packers-coaching-job-minnesota-vikings).  Would you be happy with DiFilippo going to the Packers and replacing him with McCarthy as OC?

Check out McCarthy out without a first ballot HOF QB...Not good...

LOL! Vikings fans "mocking" a HC or QB for "ONLY" winning 1 Super Bowl!? REALLY??! You have GOT  to be shitting me!!

Um, Bud and Fran made it to 3 SB and shit the bed each time. Bud also choked with Kapp, so he must REALLY suck...and Fran, too. 

Jim Kelly and Marv Levy? No Super Bowls wins. What an unproductive combo THAT was!

Shula FAILED to win a Super Bowl in 17 years with Marino. I guess Dan and Don are losers, correct?

 Coryell and Fouts never even MADE it to a Super Bowl. Both are HOF's, correct? 

Hey, I get the GB hate, but this "only 1 Championship" shit needs to stop. 

I think we ALL would agree that ONE Super Bowl victory would be enough to satisfy Vikings fans for the next decade at least, yes?

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