and hes back
Carlson the kicker is a Raider.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO.
@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO.I agree... punters and kickers get screwed, every other position would have a chance to work into the job, but since teams dont carry extra kickers they are thrown to the wolves and dont really have a legit opportunity to work through tough patches. I wish him the best.. hell if he gets it together in oakland he will likely be available again this offseason if we want to give him another run.
@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO.He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.
Enough already. Not that I have alot of sympathy for Oakland fan. Still doesn't this cross the line toward the cruel and unusual threshold? The inhumanity of Chucky. Seriously has got to feel like a horror movie. Move them already... Have mercy.
@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Carlson the kicker is a Raider.Now we KNOW that he's trying to tank the season!
@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
good he gets another shot
no pressure
miss & you never kick again
I think it's a perfect situation for him to thrive. Watch he gets it together while everything goes to shit around him. I wish him well.
@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Sincerely yours,
Mason Crosby
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Sincerely yours,
Mason Crosby
To Whizz's point, other than GB sticking with Crosby, what team has? None I can think of. This isn't a Viking unique thing, its a league wide deal. Teams have already cut kickers this year other than the Vikings.The issue is teams can't afford to let young kickers figure it out. Maybe they bump around and the light goes on with their 2nd or 3rd team. Crosby had already established himself as a pretty good kicker before his issues. That's why Walsh got a lot of rope before he was cut, he had a great rookie year. Its just the way it is although I agree it seems counter productive to deal with kickers that way to a great degree.
Iron your shit out in practice---you miss 3 in a game get ready to ask if you'd like that with fries.
@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Sincerely yours,
Mason Crosby
To Whizz's point, other than GB sticking with Crosby, what team has? None I can think of. This isn't a Viking unique thing, its a league wide deal. Teams have already cut kickers this year other than the Vikings.The issue is teams can't afford to let young kickers figure it out. Maybe they bump around and the light goes on with their 2nd or 3rd team. Crosby had already established himself as a pretty good kicker before his issues. That's why Walsh got a lot of rope before he was cut, he had a great rookie year. Its just the way it is although I agree it seems counter productive to deal with kickers that way to a great degree.
Because Kickers are unique animals. They don't get multiple plays back to back to work out the kinks. They are somewhat like QBs where to much of the success or blame is put on them. But they are different because the light shines directly on them alone. Can anyone name they guy that held for Walsh's shank? Most Viking fans remember that the laces were facing him and probably remember the name. But most fans only remember Walsh missed. And most won't recall that he was the only one to score for the Vikings that day. Or that the D let Wilson escape after a fumble to throw a lolipop pass that was caught and made a huge gain.So kickers have to have balls of brass as their most important trait. A 50 yard FG is looked at as routine, should be made. Only when a guy misses do we think about the kicker. He has to shake it off and wait for many minutes, maybe an hour or even a week to redeem himself. But most kickers are picked because they have a huge leg and can kick the ball a long ways. Yet the best are those that have the mental makeup to forget a miss and simply kick the next one. And even the best (Gary Anderson, Dan Bailey) miss some important ones.
@"Akvike" said: Iron your shit out in practice---you miss 3 in a game get ready to ask if you'd like that with fries.pish posh everyone knows nfl players become dental salesmen after their nfl career.
@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Carlson has landed with a coach who doesn't need to win to keep his job.
@"Jor-El" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Carlson has landed with a coach who doesn't need to win to keep his job.
Well, he’s young and has a big leg but we’ll see how long that lasts if he continues to miss kicks. He replaced someone. Why?
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:Bull, Blair Walsh was ok situation when the Vikings drafted him. Super bowl wasn't something people were thinking of.@"Bolstad79" said:If hes going to play in the NFL there is no protecting him. Doesnt matter what team you’re on.@"StickyBun" said: Can't help but root for the kid. He didn't get much of a shot, IMO. He should have never been put into the position he was. How are you going to spend the Money on a franchise QB for a Super bowl then put a Rookie Kicker on the roster.This season is a marked season, and a Rookie Kicker should have never been part of the plan. Kicker with a track record of kicking should have.
Carlson might end up being a good kicker, but he needs a minute to develop on a team that doesn't need him to be great now.
I f you're a bottom tier team you can take a chance on a big leg kicker and let him develop, go through the ups and downs, but the Vikings didn't have time for that. One game could cost home field advantage.
...and then what happened to Walsh? Hes out of the league as far as I know. So what did starting him off on the Vikings do for him?And are you telling me that just because youre on a team the may not be considered a contender, the pressure is off? and its okay to miss kicks and lose games on some teams?
What about the coaches that need to win to keep their jobs? If you miss kicks in this league you are gone, no matter what team.
Sincerely yours,
Mason Crosby
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