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How bout that Bennett roughing penalty?

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I'd be pretty pissed if I was an Eagle fans...So this is what it feels like to be on the right side of one of those calls huh?

That aside, I hate how the NFL is dealing with it's crisis of health and CTE issues...

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#1 · Oct 8, 8:43 AM
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i dont have an issue with it... he had plenty of time to avoid the illegal contact but he chose to finish the hit.  we have been dinged by that call when it wasnt even contact initiated below the waist.

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#2 · Oct 8, 8:52 AM
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The Bennett call was horseshit, as was the Sendejo call. The only "good" thing about it (if you can call it that) is that it's happening all around the NFL to all teams...over time it will even out, but it will cost teams games...already has.  

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#3 · Oct 8, 8:56 AM
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To piggyback off of Maroon, those were 'reputation' calls. Both players have a history so we're called for things that simply were not penalties.

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#4 · Oct 8, 8:58 AM
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What I didn't like about the call was Bennett didn't "rough" anyone.  He got to the QB and tackeled him; that's his job.  Yeah, he was below the waist, but because Bennett was pretty much on the ground, around the knees was the only place he could grab Cousins.  Was the correct thing to do is not attempt sacking Cousins until he stood up again?

I did like that the penalty helped us, but it seemed to me like a horribly bad call.

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@"MaroonBells" said: The Bennett call was horseshit, as was the Sendejo call. The only "good" thing about it (if you can call it that) is that it's happening all around the NFL to all teams...over time it will even out, but it will cost teams games...already has.  

Yep, that Sendejo call was a makeup call IMO.  The Bennett call was about as bad as it gets.  Started mid thigh and slipped down to a gentle tackle around the legs.  At first, with it being bennett, I thought maybe he twisted or did something cheap to draw the flag.  But no, he just forgot to put the pillow down before gently laying the QB on the ground.

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#6 · Oct 8, 9:39 AM
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The Bennett call was bullshit, plain and simple.  I was in our chat room yesterday thinking of how it would have exploded if that call had gone against one of the Vikes. 

Dejo's call could have gone either way, it was helmet to helmet so I wasn't surprised it was called.

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#7 · Oct 8, 5:01 PM
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They were pissed and they booed like crazy. It was kind of lame but that's how they are calling it now. Same goes for the call on Dejo. Both Dejo and Bennett have reputations now though. It seems like the league feels more comfortable calling them on players with priors. 

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#8 · Oct 8, 5:10 PM
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Good call...  B) 

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#9 · Oct 8, 5:14 PM
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The call was good as was the Matthews call that negated the int.  If you want to argue the rule is bad, so be it, but you shouldn't expect refs to "legislate from the bench." I actually feel that this year, the refs are doing a better job than usual about being consistent.  These calls are affecting the league darlings as much as the afterthoughts.

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@"JimmyinSD" said: i dont have an issue with it... he had plenty of time to avoid the illegal contact but he chose to finish the hit.  we have been dinged by that call when it wasnt even contact initiated below the waist.
... you're kidding. He was playing full speed football.

We've been hit with shit calls too, but that doesn't excuse that shit call. 

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#11 · Oct 8, 9:14 PM
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It was a bad call.

That said, if his body had come in on Kirk's ankles just a little lower/harder, we might be talking about how the rest of the season would play out with a backup qb in charge.   

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@"KingBash" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: i dont have an issue with it... he had plenty of time to avoid the illegal contact but he chose to finish the hit.  we have been dinged by that call when it wasnt even contact initiated below the waist.
... you're kidding. He was playing full speed football.

We've been hit with shit calls too, but that doesn't excuse that shit call. 



no im not kidding.  hitting them low has been a rule for several years now and it was made a rule for a reason,  this isnt about how he landed on him like the new bull shit,  its pretty cut and dry you cant go low on a QB and he did.  he made his turn and pushed for Cousins after the block that pushed him to the ground,  its a rule and he broke it.  the call was the right call as he was not blocked into KCs legs and really made no effort to avoid the contact.   if you want to argue the rule.. then argue the rule,  but the call was correct.

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#13 · Oct 9, 7:26 AM
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I've seen that correctly called dozens or times, James. This wasn't one of them.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"KingBash" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: i dont have an issue with it... he had plenty of time to avoid the illegal contact but he chose to finish the hit.  we have been dinged by that call when it wasnt even contact initiated below the waist.
... you're kidding. He was playing full speed football.

We've been hit with shit calls too, but that doesn't excuse that shit call. 



no im not kidding.  hitting them low has been a rule for several years now and it was made a rule for a reason,  this isnt about how he landed on him like the new bull shit,  its pretty cut and dry you cant go low on a QB and he did.  he made his turn and pushed for Cousins after the block that pushed him to the ground,  its a rule and he broke it.  the call was the right call as he was not blocked into KCs legs and really made no effort to avoid the contact.   if you want to argue the rule.. then argue the rule,  but the call was correct.

I.E...the "Tom Brady" rule.

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@"FSUVike" said: I've seen that correctly called dozens or times, James. This wasn't one of them.
By the letter of the rule, it was the correct call.  If you want to argue the "forcibly" part I can see that, but he still hit him with enough force to buckle him from behind.  The refs have called that and will continue to call that.  That rule is in place so QBs don't break ankles or get serious knee injuries from blindside hits... I don't agree with a lot of these calls and think the QBs are too protected, but I'm glad the refs are finally being consistent.  No more star QB treatment and everyone else has to tough it out.  That's the only silver lining in this flag fest of QB hits.
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@"FSUVike" said: I've seen that correctly called dozens or times, James. This wasn't one of them.
its a free country,  be wrong if you want to
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It was a call that went the Viking's way, I'll take it. Its not like we've got Christian Ponder back there now, who nobody knows, they've got a very good known entity in Cousins who will actually GET calls from the refs (shocking!). New territory for Viking's fans.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"KingBash" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: i dont have an issue with it... he had plenty of time to avoid the illegal contact but he chose to finish the hit.  we have been dinged by that call when it wasnt even contact initiated below the waist.
... you're kidding. He was playing full speed football.

We've been hit with shit calls too, but that doesn't excuse that shit call. 



no im not kidding.  hitting them low has been a rule for several years now and it was made a rule for a reason,  this isnt about how he landed on him like the new bull shit,  its pretty cut and dry you cant go low on a QB and he did.  he made his turn and pushed for Cousins after the block that pushed him to the ground,  its a rule and he broke it.  the call was the right call as he was not blocked into KCs legs and really made no effort to avoid the contact.   if you want to argue the rule.. then argue the rule,  but the call was correct.


I was arguing I don't think he had plenty of time to pull up. When you're giving it your all and everything happens in a split second, I didn't see anything intentionally illegal. Illegal by rule, yes. But I thought it was cheap, not representative of how I want a football game called. They should've used discretion IMO.

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#19 · Oct 9, 9:07 AM
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Designed to protect knees, not ankles. That wasn't even a lunge at the knees or a stumble. It was a wrap up of the ankles. Bad call, same as on Sendejo, who absolutely wasn't leading with his head.

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#20 · Oct 9, 9:26 AM
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Rudolph barely even touched him as he was turning,  he was going low as soon as he came around the corner and the block did nothing to affect or change how he was preparing to hit the qb.  he made impact slightly above the knees which once again has been a flag for quite some time.   he wasnt blocked into him and if he isnt able to play within the rules at the speed he plays then he needs to slow down.  weve all seen our guys get called for the same or even less blatant hits.

do I think QBs need to get treated like any other player.... hell yes,  but until the rules are changed that was a penalty.

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