A gross loss to Philly and apathy will kick in...

And a win will bring sunshine and hope again to our fair lands.

I'm a long-time season tix holder. Am hoping the future home games have meaning to them. Just waiting for the rest of the season to unfold, but I've emotionally pulled back.

I dont know if I should be concerned there are some deep rooted things wrong with the team or what might ail the Vikings are a symptom of the new NFL? Maybe it's both. 

@"greediron" said: And a win will bring sunshine and hope again to our fair lands.

Truth. Can't deny that, either.

@"greediron" said: And a win will bring sunshine and hope again to our fair lands.

Oh wait...I funny'd you. You were being serious?

I'm already emotionally protecting myself by expecting a total a$$ whooping thrown at the Vikes.  If they somehow win, I'll be ecstatic, but I'm definitely expecting the opposite.

Another loss and it will be another long dismal season...

@"StickyBun" said: Honestly, I'm pretty close now between this surprisingly horrible defense and what-we-thought-it-was offensive line.

This team seems emotionally fragile except for Kirk Cousins, Diggs, and Thielen. Those three go out and just perform not matter what(the Bills game being the exception). The rest of the team just looks shell shocked and confused. It's like they felt they were entitled to win games because of the media hype machine and realized you have to actually show up with a strong effort every week or shit like this can and will happen. Can Zimmer inspire this team to a victory? I don't think so because he doesn't strike me as that kind of coach but somebody needs to create some urgency and understand our backs are against the wall. I hate to put so much emphasis on one game, but to me, this is the pivotal matchup we need to win, on the road, in a stadium we usually suck in, to turn this season around. 

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"greediron" said: And a win will bring sunshine and hope again to our fair lands.

Oh wait...I funny'd you. You were being serious?

@"TBro" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Honestly, I'm pretty close now between this surprisingly horrible defense and what-we-thought-it-was offensive line.

This team seems emotionally fragile except for Kirk Cousins, Diggs, and Thielen. Those three go out and just perform not matter what(the Bills game being the exception). The rest of the team just looks shell shocked and confused. It's like they felt they were entitled to win games because of the media hype machine and realized you have to actually show up with a strong effort every week or shit like this can and will happen. Can Zimmer inspire this team to a victory? I don't think so because he doesn't strike me as that kind of coach but somebody needs to create some urgency and understand our backs are against the wall. I hate to put so much emphasis on one game, but to me, this is the pivotal matchup we need to win, on the road, in a stadium we usually suck in, to turn this season around. 

I cant remember a bigger game this early in the season

My concern is if they lose this week and drop to 1-3-1 it takes a 2 game win streak just to get back to .500. That would mean 4 weeks without a win. Counting a tie.
I know it's early still but the NFL has so few games. They lose this week and the earliest they can get past .500 is mid season. They are using up all their margin for error early. Without correcting their errors even marginally. 

@"greediron" said:

@"TBro" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Honestly, I'm pretty close now between this surprisingly horrible defense and what-we-thought-it-was offensive line.

This team seems emotionally fragile except for Kirk Cousins, Diggs, and Thielen. Those three go out and just perform not matter what(the Bills game being the exception). The rest of the team just looks shell shocked and confused. It's like they felt they were entitled to win games because of the media hype machine and realized you have to actually show up with a strong effort every week or shit like this can and will happen. Can Zimmer inspire this team to a victory? I don't think so because he doesn't strike me as that kind of coach but somebody needs to create some urgency and understand our backs are against the wall. I hate to put so much emphasis on one game, but to me, this is the pivotal matchup we need to win, on the road, in a stadium we usually suck in, to turn this season around. 

Kind of refutes your whole premise.  Those 3 were awful in the Bill's game, just like everyone else.  Never seen Thielen drop so many passes in a year as he did that game.  Cousins was way off.

@"TBro" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"TBro" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Honestly, I'm pretty close now between this surprisingly horrible defense and what-we-thought-it-was offensive line.

This team seems emotionally fragile except for Kirk Cousins, Diggs, and Thielen. Those three go out and just perform not matter what(the Bills game being the exception). The rest of the team just looks shell shocked and confused. It's like they felt they were entitled to win games because of the media hype machine and realized you have to actually show up with a strong effort every week or shit like this can and will happen. Can Zimmer inspire this team to a victory? I don't think so because he doesn't strike me as that kind of coach but somebody needs to create some urgency and understand our backs are against the wall. I hate to put so much emphasis on one game, but to me, this is the pivotal matchup we need to win, on the road, in a stadium we usually suck in, to turn this season around. 

Kind of refutes your whole premise.  Those 3 were awful in the Bill's game, just like everyone else.  Never seen Thielen drop so many passes in a year as he did that game.  Cousins was way off.

I know. But those three have earned the benefit of the doubt with how they have performed in our other games so far with minimal pass protection at best. Plus, Flip is a new coordinator, with a new offense, and new QB. I expected difficult games like the Bills at the beginning of the year as they were finding their identity, just not the overall team meltdown that we saw in that game. What is Zimmer's excuse for how this defense has played since last year? He doesn't have one. He's been given every tool he needs for a championship caliber defense but they are failing miserably. I'm not suggesting you are defending him or making excuses for him, but to just focus on that one statement, which I qualified, is ignoring the bigger issue I tried to illustrate that supports Sticky Bun's thread topic. 

I am wondering if there is going to be an kind of advantage for the offense with DeFilippo. Also the defense is going through an identity crisis and leadership issues. There might be some growing pains along the way. I am trying to be patient. We will learn a lot about this team from this game.

@"suncoastvike" said: My concern is if they lose this week and drop to 1-3-1 it takes a 2 game win streak just to get back to .500. That would mean 4 weeks without a win. Counting a tie. I know it's early still but the NFL has so few games. They lose this week and the earliest they can get past .500 is mid season. They are using up all their margin for error early. Without correcting their errors even marginally. 

Sobering, simple math of the day:

1-3-1 means they have to go 9/2 the rest of the way to get to 10-5-1. They better get their shit together in a hurry. 

9 wins might sneak into the playoffs, but NFC looks mighty good and the rest of the schedule looks pretty brutal.

@ NE, @ Sea, @ Jets, @ Det, @ Chi.

Yup, they better get their shit together fast.  

To me this game is on Difillipo  he should have a game plan on how to beat that Defense and have a good idea what they do on offense   If we get blown out....

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said: To me this game is on Difillipo  he should have a game plan on how to beat that Defense and have a good idea what they do on offense   If we get blown out....

Running game is non-existent, but I dont think our major problems lie at the feet of Flip. No, imo this is on the D and architects of that D. They can't stop anybody. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said: To me this game is on Difillipo  he should have a game plan on how to beat that Defense and have a good idea what they do on offense   If we get blown out....

Running game is non-existent, but I dont think our major problems lie at the feet of Flip. No, imo this is on the D and architects of that D. They can't stop anybody. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: My concern is if they lose this week and drop to 1-3-1 it takes a 2 game win streak just to get back to .500. That would mean 4 weeks without a win. Counting a tie. I know it's early still but the NFL has so few games. They lose this week and the earliest they can get past .500 is mid season. They are using up all their margin for error early. Without correcting their errors even marginally. 

Sobering, simple math of the day:

1-3-1 means they have to go 9/2 the rest of the way to get to 10-5-1. They better get their shit together in a hurry. 

9 wins might sneak into the playoffs, but NFC looks mighty good and the rest of the schedule looks pretty brutal.

@ NE, @ Sea, @ Jets, @ Det, @ Chi.

Yup, they better get their shit together fast.  

@"greediron" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said: To me this game is on Difillipo  he should have a game plan on how to beat that Defense and have a good idea what they do on offense   If we get blown out....

Running game is non-existent, but I dont think our major problems lie at the feet of Flip. No, imo this is on the D and architects of that D. They can't stop anybody. 

I don't like Rodgers, but he isn't a nobody.  1 touchdown,  And Garapallo was hailed as the next big thing.  1 TD, 3 INTs.

They put up yards, but not points.