Offensive outburst across the league

The league wants shootouts, it's arena ball now. How sad is it that we are hoping for the defense to be at or below average. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 

@"Vikergirl" said: The league wants shootouts, it's arena ball now. How sad is it that we are hoping for the defense to be at or below average. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 

Vikergirl,

I corrected my original post as I meant to say at or slightly above average, but compared to where we were in the early part of 2017 it's still very sad indeed. 

@"TBro" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: The league wants shootouts, it's arena ball now. How sad is it that we are hoping for the defense to be at or below average. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 

Vikergirl,

I corrected my original post as I meant to say at or slightly above average, but compared to where we were in the early part of 2017 it's still very sad indeed. 

IT's like some kind of switch was turned on this season...

I will admit my faith has been shaken since the Eagles game through much of this season. Gotta still have hope this early on.  The Bears are the eye-openers for me so far. 

We're going to be facing an Eagles team returning home after losing, I hope we're the angrier bunch this weekend. 

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"TBro" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: The league wants shootouts, it's arena ball now. How sad is it that we are hoping for the defense to be at or below average. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 

Vikergirl,

I corrected my original post as I meant to say at or slightly above average, but compared to where we were in the early part of 2017 it's still very sad indeed. 

Yeah that would be better and yes it's still sad. I think the defensive philosophy might have to change in order to move forward. I am encouraged by the offense. That's something to build on. I didn't watch the Browns game, how was the officiating? It was a football free weekend for me. 

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"TBro" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: The league wants shootouts, it's arena ball now. How sad is it that we are hoping for the defense to be at or below average. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 

Vikergirl,

I corrected my original post as I meant to say at or slightly above average, but compared to where we were in the early part of 2017 it's still very sad indeed. 

Yeah that would be better and yes it's still sad. I think the defensive philosophy might have to change in order to move forward. I am encouraged by the offense. That's something to build on. I didn't watch the Browns game, how was the officiating? It was a football free weekend for me. 

The worst officiating in terms of blown calls I can recall in a long time. The refs put a big bow on the win for the raiders reversing a first down for no good reason that would have sealed the game, and blowing a play dead on an obvious Carr fumble that likely would have been run back for a TD. That crew should be grounded.

From what I understand there is at least (if not more) 10 QBs right now that are over 70% completion rate. Last year at this time just one (drew brees). Pitch and Catch.

@"kmillard" said: From what I understand there is at least (if not more) 10 QBs right now that are over 70% completion rate. Last year at this time just one (drew brees). Pitch and Catch.

Rk		Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp% ▼	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD
1	Drew Brees	NOR	39	QB	3	3	2-1-0	104	129	80.6	1078	8	6.2	0	0.0	42	8.4	9.6	10.4	359.3	122.2		5	42	7.73	8.93	3.7	2	2
2	Derek Carr	OAK	27	QB	3	3	0-3-0	85	111	76.6	936	2	1.8	5	4.5	66	8.4	6.8	11.0	312.0	88.3		5	30	7.81	6.22	4.3
3	Eli Manning	NYG	37	QB	3	3	1-2-0	81	110	73.6	800	3	2.7	1	0.9	37	7.3	7.4	9.9	266.7	99.1		12	105	5.70	5.82	9.8
4	Ryan Tannehill	MIA	30	QB	3	3	3-0-0	54	74	73.0	687	7	9.5	2	2.7	75	9.3	10.0	12.7	229.0	121.8		6	63	7.80	8.43	7.5	1	1
5	Jared Goff	LAR	24	QB	4	4	4-0-0	97	134	72.4	1406	11	8.2	2	1.5	70	10.5	11.5	14.5	351.5	127.3		5	33	9.88	10.81	3.6
6	Ryan Fitzpatrick	TAM	36	QB	3	3	2-1-0	78	111	70.3	1230	11	9.9	4	3.6	75	11.1	11.4	15.8	410.0	124.8		5	28	10.36	10.71	4.3
7	Philip Rivers	LAC	37	QB	3	3	1-2-0	75	108	69.4	906	8	7.4	1	0.9	42	8.4	9.5	12.1	302.0	115.7		4	26	7.86	8.88	3.6
8	Kirk Cousins	MIN	30	QB	4	4	1-2-1	131	189	69.3	1387	10	5.3	2	1.1	75	7.3	7.9	10.6	346.8	103.6		13	78	6.48	7.02	6.4	1	0
9	Mitch Trubisky	CHI	24	QB	3	3	2-1-0	72	104	69.2	591	2	1.9	3	2.9	39	5.7	4.8	8.2	197.0	77.8		9	57	4.73	3.88	8.0	1	1
10	Alex Smith	WAS	34	QB	3	3	2-1-0	66	96	68.8	767	4	4.2	1	1.0	52	8.0	8.4	11.6	255.7	102.2		6	31	7.22	7.56	5.9

@"kmillard" said: From what I understand there is at least (if not more) 10 QBs right now that are over 70% completion rate. Last year at this time just one (drew brees). Pitch and Catch.

I've mentioned it a few times while talking about why our defense is lackluster.   We seem to have forgotten that there is new emphasis on illegal contact and defensive holding on the dbacks,  with a receiver allowed to run free after 5 yards,  and offensive players allowed to block at the line of scrimmage without it being offensive interference or other prior to the catch....What's a defender supposed to do?   IMO they should jam every route and hope for the best but that's only going to work if the pass rush can get home quickly.

Lackluster?

They flat-out suck

@"purplefaithful" said: Lackluster?

They flat-out suck

Truth, and the D isn't going to like playing Philly next week either.   :s

@"purplefaithful" said: Lackluster?

They flat-out suck

they rank in the upper part of the bottom 1/3 for defenses league wide,  and they have faced the 1st, 14th 17th, and 31st ranked offenses,  are we happy... no,  but defense is a mess across the league and its still early.  I am sure their rankings will eventually improve, but with this schedule and the way the league is being run now... I dont know that it will matter.

It is arena football. Teams are going RIGHT through the D in 30 yard chunks or 3 to 4 play clips. Its crazy. Goff's dropping dimes. RBs are extinct.

@"Neptizzle" said: It is arena football. Teams are going RIGHT through the D in 30 yard chunks or 3 to 4 play clips. Its crazy. Goff's dropping dimes. RBs are extinct.

Yep... and (in my opinion) this is the beginning of the end.  If another league can get enough traction, I will watch it- rather than this.  Arena football is (used to be?) on ESPN2 all the time.  I watched it- for a little while- but only if there was nothing else on.  The same seems to be the trend with the NFL now.  

well when they threw that bogus flag to help Mayfield because there was a "crown of the helmet" but the guy was simply pulling up and running past him??? I want an O trying to outsmart a D, not to just see who is faster in the backyard. I want guys getting hit hard. How the league changed SO much in one year is unbelievable.

@"pumpf" said:

@"Neptizzle" said: It is arena football. Teams are going RIGHT through the D in 30 yard chunks or 3 to 4 play clips. Its crazy. Goff's dropping dimes. RBs are extinct.

Yep... and (in my opinion) this is the beginning of the end.  If another league can get enough traction, I will watch it- rather than this.  Arena football is (used to be?) on ESPN2 all the time.  I watched it- for a little while- but only if there was nothing else on.  The same seems to be the trend with the NFL now.  

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Neptizzle" said: It is arena football. Teams are going RIGHT through the D in 30 yard chunks or 3 to 4 play clips. Its crazy. Goff's dropping dimes. RBs are extinct.

Yep... and (in my opinion) this is the beginning of the end.  If another league can get enough traction, I will watch it- rather than this.  Arena football is (used to be?) on ESPN2 all the time.  I watched it- for a little while- but only if there was nothing else on.  The same seems to be the trend with the NFL now.  

I might have to check into the Alliance of American Football that Jared Allen is a part of. I have seen a bit on Twitter about it. I guess Troy Polamalu is in on it as well. 

I really think to an extent the new rules protecting the QB have had an impact on defenses.  More passing, more points due to less pass rushing.

Mahomes was fun to watch last night. he can make plays I haven't seen in a long time. If we only had a line. If Zim could turn this D around... But damn, the league has gone from a rookie needing 3 years of development to a few games on the bench then slinging it for 400 yards several TDs and conquering the leagues top Ds.

@"Jor-El" said:

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Neptizzle" said: It is arena football. Teams are going RIGHT through the D in 30 yard chunks or 3 to 4 play clips. Its crazy. Goff's dropping dimes. RBs are extinct.

Yep... and (in my opinion) this is the beginning of the end.  If another league can get enough traction, I will watch it- rather than this.  Arena football is (used to be?) on ESPN2 all the time.  I watched it- for a little while- but only if there was nothing else on.  The same seems to be the trend with the NFL now.  

I might have to check into the Alliance of American Football that Jared Allen is a part of. I have seen a bit on Twitter about it. I guess Troy Polamalu is in on it as well. 

That's the league with Brad Childress as head coach of the Atlanta Legends? Mike Vick is player/coach of a team? Oh, the NFL is quivering.

Nationwide ratings are up this year, but the Vikings have a bad start and some of you declare the league is ruined. The NFL has repeatedly juiced offense since the 1970s and their audience keeps growing. What do you think half the fans in the league thought about Three-Deep in 1998? "Ruining football" , no doubt. But now OUR team spent 5 years trying to construct a defensive powerhouse, so you  hope the NFL will decide they prefer the 16-13 games Mike Zimmer built this team to play.