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If they don't fix the OL.....

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This is going to be a real long season if they don't fix the fuckin OL.  Ridiculous how porous they are and don't even get me started on how pathetic the run blocking is.  They completely suck.

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#1 · Sep 23, 2:26 PM
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It was my biggest concern and rightly so. It was such a shit show. 

1-1-1. Unreal.

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#2 · Sep 23, 2:28 PM
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...it'll be hard to determine whether they or special teams cost us more wins.

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#3 · Sep 23, 2:29 PM
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@"StickyBun" said: It was my biggest concern and rightly so. It was such a shit show. 

1-1-1. Unreal.


3 teams are 1-1-1 and could possibly be 6 teams by the end of monday

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#4 · Sep 23, 2:30 PM
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I love Zimmer but the o line has been a glaring weakness the entire time that he’s been here.  That’s unacceptable.

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The whole team...players and coaches....rolled over today.  They read their press clippings and said let's look at Thursday.  How you can't prepare for each team, regardless of record...week after week...and call yourself a professional?  Disgusting.

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#6 · Sep 23, 2:41 PM
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That defense should have been licking its lips this past week in anticipation. Regardless of the fumbles the O gave the Bills, they gave a rookie QB too many second chances, stupid penalties and ole' tackles. Professionals????

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#7 · Sep 23, 3:05 PM
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Boy I thought they'd rattle that rookie qb - at least a little. 

OL is what it is...There is no "help coming" 

Players they have, have to play better. Be a long season if they don't

Hopefully they can pick one of the next 2 road-games up as a win. 

what is a bit frightful is there is enough tape out there now on formations and plays the Vikings defense cant, or doesnt adjust to well. Wheel routes etc are killing this defense. 

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#8 · Sep 23, 3:09 PM
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O line is a problem for a lot of teams.

The biggest disappointment for me this year had been the inconsistent play by the defense. They should have torn Rodgers a new asshole last week with how immobile he was, and should have made this rookie very uncomfortable. 

I don’t know if Zimmer just doesn’t want to dial up the pressure or the players have gotten lazy. Seems like they are out of place a lot though. Uncovered WR’s running down the field. 

Who is actually calling the defense on game day? Is it Zimmer or Edwards? Last season Zimmer said he was turning more over to Edwards. 

Also, Penalties have been a big problem for a while. 

Ok, I vented.

Only good thing is the Packers lost and the Bears are losing.

I will say this, a lot of good teams from last season dont look very good this year yet. There is still time to get some things corrected. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

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#9 · Sep 23, 4:33 PM
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@"1VikesFan" said: This is going to be a real long season if they don't fix the fuckin OL.  Ridiculous how porous they are and don't even get me started on how pathetic the run blocking is.  They completely suck.
Clearly, this year's Oline can't run block effectively. We are becoming very one dimensional and that should concern all Vikings fans. Today's debacle didn't allow for us to establish the run as we were shell shocked with turnovers and points so early in the 1st quarter. However, don't be fooled and chalk up today's embarrassment as a "trap" game, or just an uncharacteristic performance. This line is all finesse and until they master a zone blocking scheme, we will struggle to run the ball effectively if at all. I have confidence that we will fix the Pass Protection issues we saw today. The other elephant in the room is a defense that has not performed well since Griffin injured his foot on the Rugby Pitch in Twickenham. Even Zimmer said it on his post game interview with Greg Coleman. Besides the obvious penalties, the defense is blowing assignments, releasing offensive players during a route, and routinely out of position all year and he is not sure how to fix it. That is a huge admission from the Head Coach that we are really struggling with schemes and we don't seem very quick to make adjustments. Good Offensive Coaches are exploiting our weaknesses consistently every week. 
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This defense has issues. The DB's look far from pro bowlers, the LBer's besides Kendricks are below average, and the middle of the line gets gut punched regularly. Zimmer seems to think because he's a hardass with D in his DNA that it's going to happen for him, but it seems that he has done nothing to evolve his defense, and his players have either gotten too comfortable being "his guys", or or Zim has gotten too comfy being looked at as a genius. Meanwhile Flip hasn't done anything special in the play calling either. Add to this the obvious o-line issues. (Today Reiff and Remmers played pretty much as I expected them to play last year). And these are the results. Although this is as bad as I've ever seen Cousins throw the ball.

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@"mgobluevikes" said: This defense has issues. The DB's look far from pro bowlers, the LBer's besides Kendricks are below average, and the middle of the line gets gut punched regularly. Zimmer seems to think because he's a hardass with D in his DNA that it's going to happen for him, but it seems that he has done nothing to evolve his defense, and his players have either gotten too comfortable being "his guys", or or Zim has gotten too comfy being looked at as a genius. Meanwhile Flip hasn't done anything special in the play calling either. Add to this the obvious o-line issues. (Today Reiff and Remmers played pretty much as I expected them to play last year). And these are the results. Although this is as bad as I've ever seen Cousins throw the ball.


He is getting outcoached on a regular basis. You are correct that his defense seems predictable and they are being exploited. Richardson has definitely helped this year, but the quick passing attacks and misdirection plays are gaining huge chunk plays as we seem completely unprepared to stop them. Barr has been awful this year which Leber made a big point of in his post game comments. If we let him walk, we can get a decent compensatory pick correct? I would invest that money in Richardson who is far more important to this defense. Barr couldn't chase down Allen on the first TD, and his penalties led to additional points by the Bills. Overrated. 

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#12 · Sep 23, 5:32 PM
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@"TBro" said:
@"mgobluevikes" said: This defense has issues. The DB's look far from pro bowlers, the LBer's besides Kendricks are below average, and the middle of the line gets gut punched regularly. Zimmer seems to think because he's a hardass with D in his DNA that it's going to happen for him, but it seems that he has done nothing to evolve his defense, and his players have either gotten too comfortable being "his guys", or or Zim has gotten too comfy being looked at as a genius. Meanwhile Flip hasn't done anything special in the play calling either. Add to this the obvious o-line issues. (Today Reiff and Remmers played pretty much as I expected them to play last year). And these are the results. Although this is as bad as I've ever seen Cousins throw the ball.


He is getting outcoached on a regular basis. You are correct that his defense seems predictable and they are being exploited. Richardson has definitely helped this year, but the quick passing attacks and misdirection plays are gaining huge chunk plays as we seem completely unprepared to stop them. Barr has been awful this year which Leber made a big point of in his post game comments. If we let him walk, we can get a decent compensatory pick correct? I would invest that money in Richardson who is far more important to this defense. Barr couldn't chase down Allen on the first TD, and his penalties led to additional points by the Bills. Overrated. 


I really hope they let Barr walk, I have never been able to see why anyone would think he's worth a big contract.  Definitely one of the weakest links in the defense.

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