BREAKING: Brett Jones will be the Viking's starting center Sunday
Starting lineup will be: Reiff-Compton-Jones-Remmers-Hill this Sunday. I'm ok with this....if when Elflein comes back (please soon) that Jones slides over to LG to take over for Compton. I'm ready to ride with that combo.
Todays breaking news...Stay tuned for further developments.
On a serious note. I'm ok with this as well till Elf comes back. Think it makes the most sense.
compton and hill are the definite weak points. Hurry back Elflein!
I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either?
@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either?Have to agree there. I like that Zimmer takes a prudent approach to nearly everything, but man, in my humble opinion, Isidora looked far better this preseason than Compton.
@"MaroonBells" said:maybe this is Rick sandbagging the young talent to keep from having to pay them much when they reach FA. B)@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Have to agree there. I like that Zimmer takes a prudent approach to nearly everything, but man, in my humble opinion, Isidora looked far better this preseason than Compton.
Is this more breaking than the last breaking that had Isadora to start?
And can we refrain from using the term Breaking in reference to anything concerning the O-Line?
@"greediron" said:Oh, snap... ;)And can we refrain from using the term Breaking in reference to anything concerning the O-Line?
@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either?yup
@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either?Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.
@"dadevike" said:It's certainly not preseason games because Isadora outplayed him at every turn.@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.I think it might be the fact that Compton is more athletic than Isidora. He moves better. And that might play better into what Flip has in store. Keep in mind, the preseason is all about simple protections and straight forward blocking. Fire hydrants like Edison and Isadora are likely going to look much better doing that than the kind of dancing they'll need to do in a movement offense.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"dadevike" said:It's certainly not preseason games because Isadora outplayed him at every turn.@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.I think it might be the fact that Compton is more athletic than Isidora. He moves better. And that might play better into what Flip has in store. Keep in mind, the preseason is all about simple protections and straight forward blocking. Fire hydrants like Edison and Isadora are likely going to look much better doing that than the kind of dancing they'll need to do in a movement offense.
well Diggs is likely more athletic than Compton... maybe they should try him there? :pI get what you are saying about being able to move the feet and pull and shit, but at the same time, Compton needs to be able to actually drop and anchor and hold a block or drive at times and he really showed weak at conventional line play. I like the zone blocking and the running lanes it creates, but we cant have linemen that all they can do is pull.... at some point they need to get tough in the trenches.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"dadevike" said:It's certainly not preseason games because Isadora outplayed him at every turn.@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.I think it might be the fact that Compton is more athletic than Isidora. He moves better. And that might play better into what Flip has in store. Keep in mind, the preseason is all about simple protections and straight forward blocking. Fire hydrants like Edison and Isadora are likely going to look much better doing that than the kind of dancing they'll need to do in a movement offense.
well Diggs is likely more athletic than Compton... maybe they should try him there? :pI get what you are saying about being able to move the feet and pull and shit, but at the same time, Compton needs to be able to actually drop and anchor and hold a block or drive at times and he really showed weak at conventional line play. I like the zone blocking and the running lanes it creates, but we cant have linemen that all they can do is pull.... at some point they need to get tough in the trenches.
Just saying that if you're looking for a reason, that's probably it. If you read the Flip interview he talked a lot about blockers moving, shielding, rubbing, on several levels. It's probably also the reason we put Edison on the practice squad and traded for an athletic lineman like Jones, despite the fact that Edison played remarkably well in the preseason. Edison might look very good in simple, straightforward blocking schemes, but Jones is probably better suited as a blocker on the move in a zone/RPO offense. And now that I think about it, that the Giants switched to a power scheme may have contributed to his being available.I'll be very interested to what happens when Elf returns. I suspect that Jones might just replace Compton at LG.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"dadevike" said:It's certainly not preseason games because Isadora outplayed him at every turn.@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.I think it might be the fact that Compton is more athletic than Isidora. He moves better. And that might play better into what Flip has in store. Keep in mind, the preseason is all about simple protections and straight forward blocking. Fire hydrants like Edison and Isadora are likely going to look much better doing that than the kind of dancing they'll need to do in a movement offense.
well Diggs is likely more athletic than Compton... maybe they should try him there? :pI get what you are saying about being able to move the feet and pull and shit, but at the same time, Compton needs to be able to actually drop and anchor and hold a block or drive at times and he really showed weak at conventional line play. I like the zone blocking and the running lanes it creates, but we cant have linemen that all they can do is pull.... at some point they need to get tough in the trenches.
Just saying that if you're looking for a reason, that's probably it. If you read the Flip interview he talked a lot about blockers moving, shielding, rubbing, on several levels. It's probably also the reason we put Edison on the practice squad and traded for an athletic lineman like Jones, despite the fact that Edison played remarkably well in the preseason. Edison might look very good in simple, straightforward blocking schemes, but Jones is probably better suited as a blocker on the move in a zone/RPO offense. And now that I think about it, that the Giants switched to a power scheme may have contributed to his being available.I'll be very interested to what happens when Elf returns. I suspect that Jones might just replace Compton at LG.
what I found interesting is that Shurm used the zone scheme here and then went the other way in NY. I thought that was odd. granted it might be a bit forced with what he had to work with, but they took hernandez and traded away jones, so I have to think he is committing to it.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"dadevike" said:It's certainly not preseason games because Isadora outplayed him at every turn.@"JimmyinSD" said: I dont understand how Isidora isnt ready enough at OG to displace Compton who looked pedestrian at best in the preseason... maybe Tom thought that since the play callers didnt want to tip their hands in meaningless games that he shouldnt either? Maybe Compton outplays him daily in practice. That’s what I tell myself to explain why Siemian is ahead of Sloter.I think it might be the fact that Compton is more athletic than Isidora. He moves better. And that might play better into what Flip has in store. Keep in mind, the preseason is all about simple protections and straight forward blocking. Fire hydrants like Edison and Isadora are likely going to look much better doing that than the kind of dancing they'll need to do in a movement offense.
My thought as well. Easton was really good at moving and getting outside or to the second level. We probably didn't show much of that in the preseason, so it wasn't to the strengths of some guys.
@"MaroonBells" said:
I'll be very interested to what happens when Elf returns. I suspect that Jones might just replace Compton at LG.
I agree with this and hope this is what happens. I do not think Remmers is going back to RT. I think he stays at RG. Still, a starting 5 of Reiff, Jones, Elf, Remmers, and Hill/O'Neill may be just fine.
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