Officiating

Freakshow. The suits will ruin the game before any concussion litigation will. Stupid.

I think officials are told to enforce new rules tighter in the preseason so that teams adjust by the time the regular season rolls around and then they loosen up a bit.

At least that's what I hope...  Because I'd hate to try to sack a QB now.  Maybe we can wrap pillows around our defenders arms to soften any type of hits or sacks on the QB?

That roughing the passer call was absolutely brutal.  If that's a sign of things to come, things are gonna be downright ugly.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-flagged-for-new-roughing-the-passer-rule-on-questionable-play-freaking-everyone-out/

“ We have a new penalty that's going to be a problem, and this time it does not involve "leading with the helmet." It does involve a new addition to the rulebook, an addendum that can be called the "Aaron Rodgers Rule," because of the injury that occurred with Anthony Barr driving the Packers quarterback into the ground last year. “

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& We all know he is gonna play it tor all it’s worth, flopping with arms flailing the whole act

The Academy Awards will have a new catagory for Rodgers too

@"Wetlander" said: I think officials are told to enforce new rules tighter in the preseason so that teams adjust by the time the regular season rolls around and then they loosen up a bit.

At least that's what I hope...  Because I'd hate to try to sack a QB now.  Maybe we can wrap pillows around our defenders arms to soften any type of hits or sacks on the QB?

I was thinking bubble wrap. It's absolutely ridiculous. I understand the intent but they are taking away the defense. They create these rules but don't know how to enforce them and then enforce them inconsistently. I hope they loosen up during the season but I have a feeling that they are going to cost some teams some games. I know that's nothing new but this is excessive. It is another momentum killer.

Make them all sign a release. End of problem.

@"kmillard" said: Make them all sign a release. End of problem.

Takes away some of the the leagues ability to control the outcome of the games if they can't call bullshit infractions.

How about the one that got picked up where our DE hit the QB in the lower back but was being held while dang it...they said there was no roughing the passer because he was being held.....but he hit him perfectly legal and as the QB folded the defender slid down his legs but it was still a legal hit amd they were going to flag him for it.

I know these refs aren't to blame,  and many are likely as frustrated as the fans and players, but dammit they need speak up themselves at some point as to home impossible to enforce  the owners are making the rules for them. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"kmillard" said: Make them all sign a release. End of problem.

I know these refs aren't to blame,  and many are likely as frustrated as the fans and players, but dammit they need speak up themselves at some point as to home impossible to enforce  the owners are making the rules for them. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"kmillard" said: Make them all sign a release. End of problem.

I know these refs aren't to blame,  and many are likely as frustrated as the fans and players, but dammit they need speak up themselves at some point as to home impossible to enforce  the owners are making the rules for them. 

I sorta think that might be what's happening here. "I'm going to throw a flag here to show the NFL just how stupid this is." I hope all those twitter posts results in a serious backlash. It's even more infuriating that it came about because of Barr's hit on that cream puff in Green Bay. Man, we can't hit him hard enough this year. 

The helmet call against the Jags was almost as bad. As Leber pointed out, what's a defender supposed to do? If the ball carrier lowers his head, you either lower yours, take it in the belly, or let him go by you. And calling that on the ball carrier, which is just as possible, is even more ridiculous. How is a ball carrier supposed to run through traffic without lowering his head?  

If that bullshit roughing the passer call was an indication of how the league is going, that might finally be my breaking point. I'm serious: my Vikings could turn into a team I follow through the headlines. I need to watch real football. I'll start watching college and force myself to get into it...

This is absolutely ludicrous. 

@"KingBash" said: If that bullshit roughing the passer call was an indication of how the league is going, that might finally be my breaking point. I'm serious: my Vikings could turn into a team I follow through the headlines. I need to watch real football. I'll start watching college and force myself to get into it...

This is absolutely ludicrous. 

Except that the targeting rule has had a major impact on college football. That has changed the college game and not for the better. I know there are malicious hits but there are plenty that are not illegal that get called. But I still follow college ball. And there is a change in the learning curve because of the different rules in college and pro ball. 

I was wondering if he hit the qb in the facemask when down.  I caught it on a replay.  And Zimmer said something like he was going for the ball to the ref.  

It wasn’t roughing shit.  It was a textbook tackle.  Maybe they should give a penalty based on how much it looks like it hurt?

Now I’m second guessing every sack 
On the nice take down by Odenigbo, flags went flying
& I’m like “ That was holding too... or did he tackle him too hard ? “

Yet another stupid rule that can go either way every play & will decide games

@"Maple Surple" said: Now I’m second guessing every sack  On the nice take down by Odenigbo, flags went flying & I’m like “ That was holding too... or did he tackle him too hard ? “

Yet another stupid rule that can go either way every play & will decide games

If he hadn't been held it was going to be roughing the passer.  That's the one that pisses me off the most,  there just is no fucking way to hit them legally anymore.

People say kickers and punters aren't really football players,  fuck that, these QBs are the ones that shouldn't be considered football players.  Hell half these QBs are as big as some DES amd LBs,  how are they supposed to get those guys down with falling on them?  We saw Bortles trying to avoid going down yesterday and our guy was above him and trying to hold him down without putting his weight on hin.....what a bunch of bull shit.

will make the game unwatchable.  

Just like his dad.... the kid likes to be on TV.  If the refs have this much control of the game...

To quote Ben Leber...  “I’m done”.  

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Maple Surple" said: Now I’m second guessing every sack  On the nice take down by Odenigbo, flags went flying & I’m like “ That was holding too... or did he tackle him too hard ? “

Yet another stupid rule that can go either way every play & will decide games

If he hadn't been held it was going to be roughing the passer.  That's the one that pisses me off the most,  there just is no fucking way to hit them legally anymore.

People say kickers and punters aren't really football players,  fuck that, these QBs are the ones that shouldn't be considered football players.  Hell half these QBs are as big as some DES amd LBs,  how are they supposed to get those guys down with falling on them?  We saw Bortles trying to avoid going down yesterday and our guy was above him and trying to hold him down without putting his weight on hin.....what a bunch of bull shit.

@"Max" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Maple Surple" said: Now I’m second guessing every sack  On the nice take down by Odenigbo, flags went flying & I’m like “ That was holding too... or did he tackle him too hard ? “

Yet another stupid rule that can go either way every play & will decide games

If he hadn't been held it was going to be roughing the passer.  That's the one that pisses me off the most,  there just is no fucking way to hit them legally anymore.

People say kickers and punters aren't really football players,  fuck that, these QBs are the ones that shouldn't be considered football players.  Hell half these QBs are as big as some DES amd LBs,  how are they supposed to get those guys down with falling on them?  We saw Bortles trying to avoid going down yesterday and our guy was above him and trying to hold him down without putting his weight on hin.....what a bunch of bull shit.

What was most frustrating about that "flag" that they picked up was that their reasoning for it NOT being a penalty on Odengbo necessitates that it should have been a penalty on Jacksonville, but they didn't call it.

"There is no roughing the passer because the defender was tackled into the quarterback."

Ummm, okay... so that should be "Holding. Offense. Ten yards". But, nope. These new rules are so confusing that it has refs forgetting/ignoring existing rules that have been obvious for decades.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Max" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Maple Surple" said: Now I’m second guessing every sack  On the nice take down by Odenigbo, flags went flying & I’m like “ That was holding too... or did he tackle him too hard ? “

Yet another stupid rule that can go either way every play & will decide games

If he hadn't been held it was going to be roughing the passer.  That's the one that pisses me off the most,  there just is no fucking way to hit them legally anymore.

People say kickers and punters aren't really football players,  fuck that, these QBs are the ones that shouldn't be considered football players.  Hell half these QBs are as big as some DES amd LBs,  how are they supposed to get those guys down with falling on them?  We saw Bortles trying to avoid going down yesterday and our guy was above him and trying to hold him down without putting his weight on hin.....what a bunch of bull shit.

What was most frustrating about that "flag" that they picked up was that their reasoning for it NOT being a penalty on Odengbo necessitates that it should have been a penalty on Jacksonville, but they didn't call it.

"There is no roughing the passer because the defender was tackled into the quarterback."

Ummm, okay... so that should be "Holding. Offense. Ten yards". But, nope. These new rules are so confusing that it has refs forgetting/ignoring existing rules that have been obvious for decades.

they called the holding but the Vikes declined the penalty and took the sack yardage and the down instead of the 10 yard penalty and replaying the down.

I'm no Nostradamus, but I predicted this years ago.  It's coming sooner than you think.


http://thesportdigest.com/2017/03/flag-football-a-safer-option/