Wow, not a single post on the "historic" LGBTQ Kluwe fest?

Growing support for the belief that there is no such thing as Lesbians.  Just women fooling around.
Most of the ones I know personally have kids.  Nothing in the bible forbidding it, either.
However, Men are specifically mentioned and chastised -  Not women.

Change my mind.

The real trouble that seems to have popped up recently is the notion we have Infinite Genders and that Society must now memorize all pronouns related to this declaration or be fired, censured, banned, etc.

My gay friends are appalled and embarrassed at the direction The Movement has taken and do not want to be championed like this at all.

Its as if there is an agenda behind it that isn't really what it claims to be on the surface.

Kluwe is a funny guy, though.  I don't hate him or anything.  But, I don't see where gays are oppressed culturally.  More like they are celebrated and can get away with saying anything.

I think it would be a lot braver to champion Traditional Values, for instance.

Just my two cents.  Please don't ban Xe for Hate Speech.

@"kahsmick" said: Growing support for the belief that there is no such thing as Lesbians.  Just women fooling around. Most of the ones I know personally have kids.  Nothing in the bible forbidding it, either. However, Men are specifically mentioned and chastised -  Not women.

Change my mind.

The real trouble that seems to have popped up recently is the notion we have Infinite Genders and that Society must now memorize all pronouns related to this notion or be fired, censured, banned, etc.

My gay friends are appalled and embarrassed at the direction The Movement has taken and do not want to be championed like this at all.

Its as if their is an agenda behind it that isn't really what it claims to be on the surface.

Kluwe is a funny guy, though.  I don't hate him or anything.  But, I don't see where gays are oppressed culturally.  More like they are celebrated and can get away with saying anything.

I think it would be a lot braver to champion Traditional Values, for instance.

Just my two cents.  Please don't ban Xe for Hate Speech.

Respect your position and thanks for a non-confrontational reply. And I agree that the current "social media" climate seems to demonize the majority.

I have gay friends (and family) too. They don't expect me to embrace, promote or celebrate their lifestyle any more than I expect them to embrace, celebrate or promote 
mine. Live and let live is a very good, basic philosophy. But when its skewed by the demand that you embrace, celebrate and promote a life style which you do not embrace, I have a big problem.

But my question of the specific difference between "gay" and "queer", as specified by the LGBTQ Alliance, remains a mystery to me. 

ANYONE?

I'm all for everyone to feel good about themselves and not be subject to bullying and ridicule, but you do get the sense from some advocates of preachiness and condescension. We all should be more tolerant in our everyday life and that includes those people that get offended by everything and anything on both sides of issues. The sexual preferences thing seems to have gone from several categories to sub categories within each acronym. Things like pan-sexual, etc. not sure what that means really. But I really don't give it much thought because it doesn't impact me and I wish for everyone to be as happy as possible regardless of what I understand or don't understand. There are nice people and there are assholes in every sexual orientation, race, gender, etc: that's what I care about in personal interactions. 

I support anyone's right to peaceful assembly. Even if it doesn't please my eyes. I choose to not go to or watch. I chose to go to the pool yesterday instead of the Pride events going on in my area. Having choices makes America great.

so why did i get chastised for saying i didnt think this was that big of a deal a month ago?  lol

Thanks for the replies. As I said, I too have a live and let live philosophy, but I have a big problem when accsptence is not enough....my heart and soul needs to be on board as well and THAT is inacceptable to me. JMO.

But seriously, any clue on the gay vs. queer question? I'm aware of the show "Queer eye for the straight guy", but that's about gay men offering life style tips to heterosexual men. Sooo maybe they're synonyms? But if so, why the separate designations in this ever-growing acronym? 

@"AGRforever" said: so why did i get chastised for saying i didnt think this was that big of a deal a month ago?  lol

I consider being chastised a compliment...lol. Means people are paying attention to what I said. 

@"kahsmick" said: Growing support for the belief that there is no such thing as Lesbians.  Just women fooling around. Most of the ones I know personally have kids.  Nothing in the bible forbidding it, either. However, Men are specifically mentioned and chastised -  Not women.

Change my mind.

"Thou shalt not commit adultery"... that applies to both genders.   B)

I believe the media makes it more about "you have to be on board" or get involved. Maybe this movement and the parades and events became a reflection of that. It was a celebration of we are who we are deal with it. To being, get involved in it or you aren't dealing with it.  I'm ok with just letting them have their weekend with or without me. 

As long as I am not forced to participate, got no problems.  No real interest in knowing the difference between G and Q.  To me its about same as NASCAR racing, it's all about who turns left the best and I could give a crap.  To me politically correct is relative to who your talking to, and I can choose who I talk with. 

Google is your friend...

So, queer essentially means ‘a person who is not straight’, while gay means ‘a person who is attracted to the same sex’.
Ultimately, however, it’s up to the individual as to how they label – or do not label – themselves, and opinions on the subject certainly do vary.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/23/whats-the-difference-between-gay-and-queer/

@"purplefaithful" said: Google is your friend...

So, queer essentially means ‘a person who is not straight’, while gay means ‘a person who is attracted to the same sex’.
Ultimately, however, it’s up to the individual as to how they label – or do not label – themselves, and opinions on the subject certainly do vary.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/23/whats-the-difference-between-gay-and-queer/

Yeah, I know that and did search, but I came up with the same conclusion....there is no difference, kinda like preferring to be called Rick instead of Dick. It doesn't change the fact that your actual name is Richard. I just thought there might be some significant difference among those within that culture that warrants a separate designation and perhaps someone here might be aware of that differentiation. Doesn't really matter to me, either, but since I am bombarded with this crap on a daily basis on all forms of media, I'd just like to be as informed as possible. I'd hate to unintentionally offend anybody by referring to them as gay when they are actually queer. My next mission is to understand what a transgender man means.......born a man transferring to female or born female transferring to male. And once that gender "affirmation" is completde, does the trans prefix drop and you are now officially just male or female? So much to learn about such a tiny subculture!

I have a child who is gender neutral...I refer to them by name or "they" being the correct pronoun.

Never, ever once thought about not accepting or loving my offspring. When I am applauded for it? I cringe - I just did and do what comes naturally - love and adore my kid.

The continuum for levels of transformation is a large one. Some individuals feel they need to physically transform to a large degree including hormone or sex change to be their "true selves"

For others its far less physical change to still be @ peace and comfortable with one self - even joyful about it. 

@"purplefaithful" said: I have a child who is gender neutral...I refer to them by name or "they" being the correct pronoun.

Never, ever once thought about not accepting or loving my offspring. When I am applauded for it? I cringe - I just did and do what comes naturally - love and adore my kid.

The continuum for levels of transformation is a large one. Some individuals feel they need to physically transform to a large degree including hormone or sex change to be their "true selves"

For others its far less physical change to still be @ peace and comfortable with one self - even joyful about it. 

I suppose the correct path to take is treat everyone the way you want to be treated.

Or maybe, treat everyone the way you would treat your own child if he/she was that way.

This shouldnt be an issue at all. 

We are all equal.  

I wish the whole issue would go away. Because it shouldn't BE an issue. 

Hopefully some day they will be cured.