Packer's QB Brett Hundley
NFL media cracks me up: they laud Hundley like crazy last year as he takes over after Rodger's injury before he's played one game (learned the system, Packer's coaches are super high on him, soaked it all in behind Rodgers, etc.). Say he could START for a few teams. It was total lovefest. He actually starts to play and looks like hot dog$hit. Packer's get Kizer in the offseason. Now Hundley might not make it on the Packer's roster come September.
I guess the older I get, the more I recognize and have a super low tolerance for the media hyperbole and hype. So many kids under 30 who have never played even high school football, covering NFL teams and acting like experts. A whole cottage industry like PFF where they break down analytics and data and they know more than NFL scouts and coaches. A massive eye roll.*
* the above is a certified, over 50 years old, old man rant. I'll go back to my regularly scheduled yelling at the kids to stay off my lawn and complaining about 'how damn hot it is' outside.
I watched Hundley quite a bit when Barr was still in school...I thought he was legit...then again, I liked Leaf over Manning...
Packer hyperbole is always in media fashion. They want desperately to believe it really ain't just about they had 2 HOF players in a row play QB. It's about how they are the best run organization in the NFL. Their dump of a stadium anywhere else would be a joke...not hallowed ground. Joe Buck couldn't freak out on a Moss moon and scream how can he do that and here of all places. Like Randy just ripped one in church...roll eyes here. The moment ESPN stops the Packer hyperbole I will start to look for shelter. The end is near... Or at least find a warm jacket because hell is taking a winter vacation. Packers, love them right...roll eyes again. Hell I'm closer to 60 now then 50. Ranting is what I do best. I'm with ya.
Also: 49ers fans and media losing their collective minds over QB Jimmy G. I like him, but lets pump the brakes until after this year. I like his coach and I think he's in a decent setup, but of course its overboard time on the guy. I'm rooting for him as I am Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, etc. The NFL is more fun with talent at the QB position.
remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh.
@"JimmyinSD" said: remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh.Ah, the good old days!!
@"1VikesFan" said:i dont know how good the days were, but even though there was much much less information available... people it seemed were better informed with the facts than they are today in the "information age". I think all of the ways to get the "news" has made us lazy as a society and as such we have a large part of the population that are perfectly happy with being told who to vote for, cheer for, and hate, etc.@"JimmyinSD" said: remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh. Ah, the good old days!!I think if we all honestly took a look at ourselves and evaluated our approaches on many matters we are all guilty to some extent of becoming sheep.
What's happened is that news and sports news are a 24/7 news cycle...that's what changed. So they are all looking for content to fill the time. When you do that, overall quality will suffer and new niches will appear (PFF.com, blogs, online content writers, websites, ala carte programming, NFL Network, etc.). Pregame shows go on for up to 4 hours+ before gametime depending on the channel. Non-stop highlights and the ability to see any highlight online. More viewable games from a network standpoint. Proliferation.
Another guy that we really have no idea how he'll perform, yet the media thinks he's 'ready to take the team into the stratosphere'. Such hyperbole. Again, rooting for the young man, but....
And to my earlier point: the writer, Will Brinson, was once a 'professional travel guide'. He was the 'social media editor' at Fanhouse for 10 years prior to blogging at CBS Sports. Where's the sports credentials? He never covered a professional team as a beat writer.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-over-under-win-totals-patrick-mahomes-set-to-take-chiefs-into-new-stratosphere/
@"StickyBun" said: Another guy that we really have no idea how he'll perform, yet the media thinks he's 'ready to take the team into the stratosphere'. Such hyperbole. Again, rooting for the young man, but....
I think the Chiefs were premature to move to him, but at some point you have to take off the training wheels.
@"JimmyinSD" said: remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh.Couldn't agree more. You can believe anything you want now, no matter how demonstrably false it is, because you have instant access to someone, somewhere who has written an article or a meme or a tweet that supports it. Truth is dead. We don't even want it anymore. We prefer the lie to the verifiable truth if the truth betrays our perception.
@"MaroonBells" said:kind of like science that is driven by profit, and not by sound methodology.... or football stats suggesting something that is completely and utterly nonsensical to anybody that actually watches and understands the game.@"JimmyinSD" said: remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh. Couldn't agree more. You can believe anything you want now, no matter how demonstrably false it is, because you have instant access to someone, somewhere who has written an article or a meme or a tweet that supports it. Truth is dead. We don't even want it anymore. We prefer the lie to the verifiable truth if the truth betrays our perception.
The Packer faithful are fully off the Hundley bandwagon after proclaiming he could start on half the teams in the league...
Now they are on the Kizer bandwagon... Good luck with that... LMAO
You'd think they would be good judges of QB talent after watching Favre and Rodgers for the last 25+ years...
@"StickyBun" said: NFL media cracks me up: they laud Hundley like crazy last year as he takes over after Rodger's injury before he's played one game (learned the system, Packer's coaches are super high on him, soaked it all in behind Rodgers, etc.). Say he could START for a few teams. It was total lovefest. He actually starts to play and looks like hot dog$hit. Packer's get Kizer in the offseason. Now Hundley might not make it on the Packer's roster come September.I guess the older I get, the more I recognize and have a super low tolerance for the media hyperbole and hype. So many kids under 30 who have never played even high school football, covering NFL teams and acting like experts. A whole cottage industry like PFF where they break down analytics and data and they know more than NFL scouts and coaches. A massive eye roll.*
* the above is a certified, over 50 years old, old man rant. I'll go back to my regularly scheduled yelling at the kids to stay off my lawn and complaining about 'how damn hot it is' outside.
Yea but it's a dry heat so ya got that going for ya.
Back to hundley---damn I was hoping they'd think a little more coaching and shaking a chicken's foot over him would solve all their problems. F the pack
@"Akvike" said:@"StickyBun" said: NFL media cracks me up: they laud Hundley like crazy last year as he takes over after Rodger's injury before he's played one game (learned the system, Packer's coaches are super high on him, soaked it all in behind Rodgers, etc.). Say he could START for a few teams. It was total lovefest. He actually starts to play and looks like hot dog$hit. Packer's get Kizer in the offseason. Now Hundley might not make it on the Packer's roster come September.I guess the older I get, the more I recognize and have a super low tolerance for the media hyperbole and hype. So many kids under 30 who have never played even high school football, covering NFL teams and acting like experts. A whole cottage industry like PFF where they break down analytics and data and they know more than NFL scouts and coaches. A massive eye roll.*
* the above is a certified, over 50 years old, old man rant. I'll go back to my regularly scheduled yelling at the kids to stay off my lawn and complaining about 'how damn hot it is' outside.
Yea but it's a dry heat so ya got that going for ya.
Back to hundley---damn I was hoping they'd think a little more coaching and shaking a chicken's foot over him would solve all their problems. F the pack
He's in Florida so he doesn't even have that going for him....
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Akvike" said:@"StickyBun" said: NFL media cracks me up: they laud Hundley like crazy last year as he takes over after Rodger's injury before he's played one game (learned the system, Packer's coaches are super high on him, soaked it all in behind Rodgers, etc.). Say he could START for a few teams. It was total lovefest. He actually starts to play and looks like hot dog$hit. Packer's get Kizer in the offseason. Now Hundley might not make it on the Packer's roster come September.I guess the older I get, the more I recognize and have a super low tolerance for the media hyperbole and hype. So many kids under 30 who have never played even high school football, covering NFL teams and acting like experts. A whole cottage industry like PFF where they break down analytics and data and they know more than NFL scouts and coaches. A massive eye roll.*
* the above is a certified, over 50 years old, old man rant. I'll go back to my regularly scheduled yelling at the kids to stay off my lawn and complaining about 'how damn hot it is' outside.
Yea but it's a dry heat so ya got that going for ya.
Back to hundley---damn I was hoping they'd think a little more coaching and shaking a chicken's foot over him would solve all their problems. F the pack
He's in Florida so he doesn't even have that going for him....
Ha, truth!
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"1VikesFan" said:i dont know how good the days were, but even though there was much much less information available... people it seemed were better informed with the facts than they are today in the "information age". I think all of the ways to get the "news" has made us lazy as a society and as such we have a large part of the population that are perfectly happy with being told who to vote for, cheer for, and hate, etc.@"JimmyinSD" said: remember when the media reported news so we could all form our own opinions.....not created the news and molded our opinions? politics, regular news, sports, etc... they all try to tell us how to think and what to feel... I agree...ugh. Ah, the good old days!!I think if we all honestly took a look at ourselves and evaluated our approaches on many matters we are all guilty to some extent of becoming sheep.
I agree people tend to think for themselves less now in the information age. Peoples opinions used to be formed more with less statistics and more personal contact. A politician uses statistics to make a point. The media picks it apart or props it up based on that networks affiliation. People used to talk to the neighbors and people in their community more. They would see or hear 1st hand if the new policy hurt or helped people around THEM not someone from some other state they are told to be outraged for.
@"Wetlander" said: The Packer faithful are fully off the Hundley bandwagon after proclaiming he could start on half the teams in the league...Now they are on the Kizer bandwagon... Good luck with that... LMAO
You'd think they would be good judges of QB talent after watching Favre and Rodgers for the last 25+ years...
They should just take a page from the old man Tom Moore. Long time OC and still at it with the Cards I hear. Back when he was Payton Manning's OC with the Colts. He was asked after pratice or camp or something by John Gruden I believe. Why dont you give your backups more reps? Tom said; look Payton is our QB without him we're F'ed. We don't practice being F'ed...lol. Love that guy.
@"Wetlander" said: The Packer faithful are fully off the Hundley bandwagon after proclaiming he could start on half the teams in the league...Now they are on the Kizer bandwagon... Good luck with that... LMAO
You'd think they would be good judges of QB talent after watching Favre and Rodgers for the last 25+ years...
...and now that I think about it. What the hell were they thinking? Compare the two QB rooms. Behind Cousins Vikings have a guy in his 4th season who's started 26 NFL games. They did the same thing last year and look how it paid off. Siemian's no superstar, but he's not going to hurt you too much if you have to play him. That's the beauty of having your developmental QB (Sloter) in the 3rd slot.
Packers are gambling on their ability to develop Kizer. This is essentially their long term replacement for Rodgers. He's a former 2nd rounder with great size and arm. If they can keep developing him behind Rodgers for a couple of years, it could pay off, but if they have to play him before he's ready, they won't be able to compete.
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