OT: NBA Draft

i dont remember exactly but they traded it for a scrub player a PF IIRC

@"Bullazin" said: i dont remember exactly but they traded it for a scrub player a PF IIRC

So what yall think about Okogie and Bates Diop?   Since i am kind of a lame wolves rube; im gonna admit i saw a little Westbrook watching Okogie highlights :)

I dont know much about any of the picks this year  but i have to think that with the wolves luck the next 2 guys drafted after their pick will likely be all stars.

The past couple years, I finally feel like the Wolves have a plan and are executing it.  Their drafting has been much better and both the players selected this draft seem like fits for what Thibs wants to do.

Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

It was for the failed Payne Train experience.
I think Okogie and KBD seem like they could be solid role players. I'm excited tonseenhiw they are used.

I was excited last year about Justin Patton... then he broke his foot like 2 weeks after the draft, played 4 minutes in one game the entire season, then had more work on the same foot this offseason so he's likely to miss summer league again. Because Timberwolves.

Lesson learned.  All you need to know is that this is the franchise that passed on Steph Curry TWICE... for Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn.

OK, now that I've got my cynicism out of the way (for now), if these two can just be decent bench players that would be huge for a team that didn't really have a bench last year (the price of the Butler trade plus Patton's injury).

I don't follow it, but anyone think its kind of dumb how a team will draft a guy and then trade him 5 picks later?

@"StickyBun" said: I don't follow it, but anyone think its kind of dumb how a team will draft a guy and then trade him 5 picks later?

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"Wetlander" said:
Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

Celtics pick  Robert Williams III  is the steal of the draft

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"Wetlander" said:
Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

Celtics pick  Robert Williams III  is the steal of the draft

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"Wetlander" said:
Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

Celtics pick  Robert Williams III  is the steal of the draft

how can any of them be the SOD until they have played?  I hate that term as usually the only time you hear it right after the draft....  sure there are lots of guys that are under drafted in every sport every year,  but how often do you really see a true head scratcher where a player had high value before the draft (who steals anything of no value?)  and ended up falling like a rock and still turned in a great career?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"Wetlander" said:
Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

Celtics pick  Robert Williams III  is the steal of the draft

how can any of them be the SOD until they have played?  I hate that term as usually the only time you hear it right after the draft....  sure there are lots of guys that are under drafted in every sport every year,  but how often do you really see a true head scratcher where a player had high value before the draft (who steals anything of no value?)  and ended up falling like a rock and still turned in a great career?

Like Wetlander stated, many "experts" who supposedly know more than us, including GMs in the league have made comments

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

@"Sir Viking Bob VWO" said:

@"Wetlander" said:
Bates-Diop is being lauded by many as "the steal of the draft"...

Celtics pick  Robert Williams III  is the steal of the draft

how can any of them be the SOD until they have played?  I hate that term as usually the only time you hear it right after the draft....  sure there are lots of guys that are under drafted in every sport every year,  but how often do you really see a true head scratcher where a player had high value before the draft (who steals anything of no value?)  and ended up falling like a rock and still turned in a great career?

Like Wetlander stated, many "experts" who supposedly know more than us, including GMs in the league have made comments

So experts cant say stupid things?  the guys havent done a thing,   how can they be a steal until they prove their value?  and if they werent really valued high prior to the draft then is it really a steal to get them where they went?  how often do players really fall from where they were projected and then turn out to be great players?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

imagine you grabbed an original piece of art at a local gallery for $50 before the artist became famous,  after a few years he/she really blows up in the art world and your painting is now worth $50,000.... did you steal it?  I wouldnt say so,   now if you found $50,000 painting at a garage sale for $50 and the owner had no clue of its true value.. well that IMO could be considered stealing....

(disclaimer: i'm just half assing a dumb analogy in the name of bad humor)

Scalping came to mind in relation to picking a player and then trading him away immediately. I think it makes a lot of sense to take advantage of other teams who are willing to give up something valuable for a player you took. In the NBA, there isn't a lot of expecation for these guys right away. Unless you are a stud high school player, it's generally assumed these players will need work. That's the polar opposite of football, unless a player is specifically labeled a project they are expected to generate the hype to sell tickets. You trade away an NBA drafted player and the reaction is kinda , "damn, well its not like he would have contributed much right away anyway," but you trade away an NFL player like that and the reaction would be more like, "that guy was a 1st round pick with a TON of skill what the **** are we thinking?!"