3 Possible trades Vikings could make
https://www.chatsports.com/minnesota-vikings/a/3-trades-minnesota-vikings-could-make-offseason-38764
Must be another fan site pretending to be journalism. Pretty silly to put Newman on this list. Doubt he has any value whatsoever to anyone other than the Vikings. What's more, all he wants is a ring. Yeah, the Vikings are going to kick him in the balls like that. *LOL*
Forbath is only slightly less ridiculous. Why trade for him? He'll be a free agent soon, among a dozen other equally talented kickers. Treadwell is the obvious candidate and I could see the Vikings trying to move him if one of the down roster WRs impresses during camp. Diggs, Thielen and Wright are locks at 1, 2 and 3. If Coley (or anyone else) moves ahead of Treadwell at #4, I'm betting they trade Tread. He'll have a lot more value to another team than he would to us.
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I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
I was half expecting to see Sandejo’s name on that list.
His cap number is about $2.7M. His dead money is about $5.8M. I don't think we can move him.
@"Zanary" said: I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
I'm sure he still has believers who liked him when he was drafted out of Miss. Another thing going for him is that he could be perceived as a receiver who hasn't been given much of an opportunity on a team with the best receiving duo in the league. Arguing against his value is his cap number and the fact that the Vikings will likely have several comp picks next year. In other words, he may have more value to us in a 4th receiver role than whatever day-3 pick we can get for him.
I don't put much stock in this piece. 1st Newman is 39 not 37 and as previously stated has no value elsewhere as he does here. Nobody is going to trade for a kicker that everyone knows is getting cut. You don't trade up to draft a kicker to compete in camp. They should do Forbath a solid and just cut him so he can compete. The only one that makes sense from this list is Treadwell. However as already noted. It will lack of any reasonable compensation and the dead money makes it unlikely.
Browns are shopping Coleman already...but cap ramifications are too steep for either guy to be moved...some guys make a jump year 1 to year 2...others year 2 to year 3...let's hope he opens his ears and does what the staff tells him to...
@"suncoastvike" said: Nobody is going to trade for a kicker that everyone knows is getting cut. You don't trade up to draft a kicker to compete in camp. They should do Forbath a solid and just cut him so he can compete.I'm like, "who trades for a kicker these days?" There's probably one bagging groceries at the local Piggly Wiggly! ;)
@"Ralphie" said:Someone worried if they don't do something soon, they'll be stuck with Walsh?@"suncoastvike" said: Nobody is going to trade for a kicker that everyone knows is getting cut. You don't trade up to draft a kicker to compete in camp. They should do Forbath a solid and just cut him so he can compete. I'm like, "who trades for a kicker these days?"
@"Scoog" said:The guy went from the beloved hottest rookie kicker to the last seat in musical chairs. Sad :'(@"Ralphie" said:Someone worried if they don't do something soon, they'll be stuck with Walsh?@"suncoastvike" said: Nobody is going to trade for a kicker that everyone knows is getting cut. You don't trade up to draft a kicker to compete in camp. They should do Forbath a solid and just cut him so he can compete. I'm like, "who trades for a kicker these days?"
@"suncoastvike" said: I don't put much stock in this piece. 1st Newman is 39 not 37 and as previously stated has no value elsewhere as he does here. Nobody is going to trade for a kicker that everyone knows is getting cut. You don't trade up to draft a kicker to compete in camp. They should do Forbath a solid and just cut him so he can compete. The only one that makes sense from this list is Treadwell. However as already noted. It will lack of any reasonable compensation and the dead money makes it unlikely.This is spot on. Stupid article. Newman came back for another try at the Super Bowl; he would sooner retire than play on a lesser team and have to learn a new defensive scheme. Besides, he is basically another coach. Trading Forbath would require an injury to a kicker during preseason -- certainly not at this point in the offseason when you can wait on the Vikings to cut him. See Josh Scobee trade. Dadevike points out the obvious flaw in the Treadwell speculation.
I think the more interesting speculation has a name -- Richie Incognito.
@"BarrNone55" said: Browns are shopping Coleman already...but cap ramifications are too steep for either guy to be moved...some guys make a jump year 1 to year 2...others year 2 to year 3...let's hope he opens his ears and does what the staff tells him to...Well now you’re talking @BarrNone55 let’s trade one for the other! ;) B)
@"BarrNone55" said: Browns are shopping Coleman already...but cap ramifications are too steep for either guy to be moved...some guys make a jump year 1 to year 2...others year 2 to year 3...let's hope he opens his ears and does what the staff tells him to...Not saying they would or wouldn't make a trade but why would opening up $1.4M in additional space stop them from moving Treadwell?
@"Geoff Nichols" said:No dead money?@"BarrNone55" said: Browns are shopping Coleman already...but cap ramifications are too steep for either guy to be moved...some guys make a jump year 1 to year 2...others year 2 to year 3...let's hope he opens his ears and does what the staff tells him to... Not saying they would or wouldn't make a trade but why would opening up $1.4M in additional space stop them from moving Treadwell?
@"BarrNone55" said:The $1.4M would be net@"Geoff Nichols" said:No dead money?@"BarrNone55" said: Browns are shopping Coleman already...but cap ramifications are too steep for either guy to be moved...some guys make a jump year 1 to year 2...others year 2 to year 3...let's hope he opens his ears and does what the staff tells him to... Not saying they would or wouldn't make a trade but why would opening up $1.4M in additional space stop them from moving Treadwell?
@"Zanary" said: I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
That's not how you trade him, you trade him for a similar type situation player. A player that hasn't lived up to his draft position.
@"Bolstad79" said:@"Zanary" said: I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
That's not how you trade him, you trade him for a similar type situation player. A player that hasn't lived up to his draft position.
Not to knock your idea because it does happen alot. I just don't understand it. You trade your disappointment for someone else's.
@"suncoastvike" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Zanary" said: I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
That's not how you trade him, you trade him for a similar type situation player. A player that hasn't lived up to his draft position.
Not to knock your idea because it does happen alot. I just don't understand it. You trade your disappointment for someone else's.
It's all about a team thinking they can coach a player up.
@"Bolstad79" said:@"suncoastvike" said:@"Bolstad79" said:@"Zanary" said: I just can't imagine what the Vikings would get for Treadwell at this point...a 7th round pick? Half a pack of Wrigley's Spearmint gum?
That's not how you trade him, you trade him for a similar type situation player. A player that hasn't lived up to his draft position.
Not to knock your idea because it does happen alot. I just don't understand it. You trade your disappointment for someone else's.
It's all about a team thinking they can coach a player up.
Yeah I get it. Still seems kinda funny. I wasn't a good enough coach to get the most out of my 1st round pick but I'm going to coach up someone else's underachieving player. Sometimes a new environment can help. Often both teams end up just releasing the one they ended up with. Guess it feels better then just not re-signing your own failure at contracts end...meh.
Forget the "senior" writer status for the guy who wrote this article, he's just a fan, and he doesn't know anything more than me or anyone else on this board.
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