Report: Teddy Bridgewater seeking a short-term deal

File this under ...  DUH!

I mean why would he or his agent agree to a long term deal for little money?

No one is going to give him more than 10 mil.

So, getting a short term deal to prove his able and back to his previous form AND getting better is the best bet.

Yes, they were so comfortable turning to Teddy if Case got injured they eventually deactived him for Bradford... 

@"BarrNone55" said: Yes, they were so comfortable turning to Teddy if Case got injured they eventually deactived him for Bradford... 

Exactly. 

I just don't see the interest from the Vikings in having Bridgewater return. And if they do, its as a Plan C. 

I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

I actually like the idea of a 3 year deal, it gives the Vikings the ability to move on, and keep the team intact. Sign him to a 3 year deal this year, Draft his replacement next year.  If you don' have an elite QB (Cousins isn't in that category to me) you have to have a complete team, and that's tough to do if you have to pay your QB elite money or your QB has a backend deal that' off the books (Tom Brady).

In 3 years get that 30 million dollar hit off the books and replace it with 10ish with a 3rd year QB on his rookie deal.

Barr is just stating the facts. Maybe Zimmer would have been comfortable turning to Teddy if Case had gone down, but evidently, he was clearly more comfortable turning to Sam.

One is a maybe - because it was just words. The other is certain because it reflects how Zimmer behaved.

If Sam was not available and Case went down, then of course Zimmer would have gone with Teddy.  There is no profit in saying that he would have put in Teddy but had no confidence that Teddy could win a game for us.

@"Ilovebigtd's" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Yes, they were so comfortable turning to Teddy if Case got injured they eventually deactived him for Bradford... 

thats such a stupid stupid thing to say.

why would they have teddy start? sam knows shurmurs offense already while teddy’s never played in it. youre looking way too much into the deactivation. cmon barr youre smarter than this

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

I would really like to ask this without upsetting anyone who likes Bridgewater a lot, but afraid it will be incite some anger..

Why is the affection for Bridgewater so strong? I don't fault anyone for preferring some players over others, but the comments about most other players is usually discussing pretty standard traits - arm strength, win-loss record, etc. But with Bridgewater, people get VERY emotional. Usually, someone likes a player, and it's not much further than, "I wouldn't mind wearing his jersey". A lot of the people who like Teddy, though, are more along the lines of, "I wish he would marry my daughter"...

Honestly, just curious what prompted the commitment in people. I liked the player when we drafted him, but was feeling impatient with his development before his injury and since then have wondered if he even SHOULD risk his health on a football field - never felt the deep faith some people have that Bridgewater is destined for NFL greatness.

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

@"Jor-El" said: I would really like to ask this without upsetting anyone who likes Bridgewater a lot, but afraid it will be incite some anger..

Why is the affection for Bridgewater so strong? I don't fault anyone for preferring some players over others, but the comments about most other players is usually discussing pretty standard traits - arm strength, win-loss record, etc. But with Bridgewater, people get VERY emotional. Usually, someone likes a player, and it's not much further than, "I wouldn't mind wearing his jersey". A lot of the people who like Teddy, though, are more along the lines of, "I wish he would marry my daughter"...

Honestly, just curious what prompted the commitment in people. I liked the player when we drafted him, but was feeling impatient with his development before his injury and since then have wondered if he even SHOULD risk his health on a football field - never felt the deep faith some people have that Bridgewater is destined for NFL greatness.

It's an honest question...I love Teddy the kid. He's philanthropic, cares about others, loved by his team-mates, has a history of winning some big games, has proven he can play in the NFL (I didnt say exceedingly so), has shown great resilience in coming-back even to this degree from a gruesome and life-threatening injury. 

Just like I would enjoy Les Frazier as my FIL or next door neighbor, that's the kind of person Bridgewater is too. Good people. 

I was excited about what year 3 held for Bridgewater in spite of big reservations I had about some key elements of his game. Could he improve from game manager to an aggressive, go after the defense qb? Similar to what Zimmer was asking from him back then too.  

But that was a long time ago. I could not (if I was GM) turn the keys over to the kid at this point. Not with 5 plays in 2 years. 

It may not "smell like teen spirit" but it sure smells like 08 to me again. A Ferrari of a team just waiting for a qb to drive it over the finish line. 

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

@"Poiple" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

You dont have a year long fluke.  A couple of games maybe but not 15.   You dont finish with 22 Tds to 7 Ints as a fluke or consistently have a high QBR as a fluke. The guy earned it.    You can say he didnt carry the team.   But how about pointing us to the tier one guy a available that can. People point to the 6 passes sefenders dropped as further evidnce but all Qbs have defenders drop passes. Thats why they are defenders and not recievers.  Even if they caught them he woukd be 22-13, still great numbers. Keenum didnt lose the the NFCC for us.   The defense did when they fell apart.   He didnt cause the O line to suddenly stop blocking.   Passs protection breaks down then play suffers  NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

You guys want a top notch guy to elevate the position then quit bitching and show us an available guy who is proven that he can.

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

@"dadevike" said: Barr is just stating the facts. Maybe Zimmer would have been comfortable turning to Teddy if Case had gone down, but evidently, he was clearly more comfortable turning to Sam.

One is a maybe - because it was just words. The other is certain because it reflects how Zimmer behaved.

If Sam was not available and Case went down, then of course Zimmer would have gone with Teddy.  There is no profit in saying that he would have put in Teddy but had no confidence that Teddy could win a game for us.

But why was Zimmer more comfortable going with Sam?  People who say this say it like they think that Zimmer/Shurmur liked Bradford as a long term QB best, but I don't see it like that.  I see Zimmer being an incredibly risk adverse coach.  I see Sam having 2 full years in Shurmur's system, a full offseason as the starting QB, last year they were able to successfully throw Sam in there and be productive on short notice.  I also see Bridgewater having happy feet on his first couple of snaps.  It seems a no brainer that Sam would be more comfortable in the do or die scenario of the playoffs, but still feel comfortable with Bridgewater if it came to it.  Regardless, I think it's a completely different conversation when you are looking at the previous scenario and in discussing who should be the QB in 2018.  In 2018, we have a completely different OC, the QB will have a full training camp and preseason to work the kinks out and get the jitters out.

@"Jor-El" said: I would really like to ask this without upsetting anyone who likes Bridgewater a lot, but afraid it will be incite some anger..

Why is the affection for Bridgewater so strong? I don't fault anyone for preferring some players over others, but the comments about most other players is usually discussing pretty standard traits - arm strength, win-loss record, etc. But with Bridgewater, people get VERY emotional. Usually, someone likes a player, and it's not much further than, "I wouldn't mind wearing his jersey". A lot of the people who like Teddy, though, are more along the lines of, "I wish he would marry my daughter"...

Honestly, just curious what prompted the commitment in people. I liked the player when we drafted him, but was feeling impatient with his development before his injury and since then have wondered if he even SHOULD risk his health on a football field - never felt the deep faith some people have that Bridgewater is destined for NFL greatness.

I think you could also say the reverse.  Bridgewater brings out the strong emotions from his detractor to the same extent that his supporters feel.  I don't consider myself an overly emotional Bridgewater supporter.  He'll get his chance somewhere for sure, but I do like him for the Vikings job.  All of our QB options are flawed.  Bradford is who he is at this point.  He's not going to rise too much above his historical performance, which still doesn't include a winning season or real leadership qualities and being injured for 40% of his games.    Cousins is a slightly more expensive, moderately better Bradford, without the injury concerns.  Keenum seems like he fell into the perfect situation.  I think if even a couple more of his risky passes turned in picks like they did in his previous seasons, we'd all be a lot more sour on him.  Bridgewater, outside of the knee, I think his biggest issue is lack of opportunity to show what he's capable of.  We just don't know how he'd perform in a situation like we had last year or that Carr had before this past year.  People get hung up on the deep ball accuracy.  That's not a showstopper for me, because I trust him to get that fixed.  I like Bridgewater because his floor is a midlevel starting QB with a decent supporting cast, and he's the only QB that has the potential to grow into the QB we all want.

@"MagnusEugeneHefeweizen" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

pumpf, I find your post interesting. I remember reading quite a few posts in 2016 that stated the same thing about Bridgewater. Bridgewater wasn't the main reason the team went 11-5, it was the Defense who was mainly responsible for the success of the team. Take out the name Bridgewater and insert Keenum and it's Groundhog Day the sequel. 

@"pumpf" said:

@"Poiple" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"pumpf" said: I'd much rather sign Teddy on a "prove-it" deal... and give him the chance to do so (after signing some other "high risk" player to compete with- like Bradford)... than to sign a "short-term" deal with Cousins- who is ONLY looking to cash in in 3 years (rather than looking for a place to call "home").  

Myself I would like to sign Keenum who has no current knee problems. Lead us to the NFC title game, the players respect him, hopefully we could try and give us some stability at QB...at a reasonable cost.

True that he has no knee problems.  But he also has nothing in his history to say that this year wasn't a fluke... or that he'll come close to replicating it.  And, even if he did, as great as this year was, it's not like Case "carried" the team.  If the plan for "winning" means having a stellar defense and a "good enough" offense- sure, Case will do.  If the goal is to actually try to win a SB... by pairing a good defense with an offense capable of winning games by itself... then I think we need to do better than Case.

You dont have a year long fluke.  A couple of games maybe but not 15.   You dont finish with 22 Tds to 7 Ints as a fluke or consistently have a high QBR as a fluke. The guy earned it.    You can say he didnt carry the team.   But how about pointing us to the tier one guy a available that can. People point to the 6 passes sefenders dropped as further evidnce but all Qbs have defenders drop passes. Thats why they are defenders and not recievers.  Even if they caught them he woukd be 22-13, still great numbers. Keenum didnt lose the the NFCC for us.   The defense did when they fell apart.   He didnt cause the O line to suddenly stop blocking.   Passs protection breaks down then play suffers  NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

You guys want a top notch guy to elevate the position then quit bitching and show us an available guy who is proven that he can.

Scott Mitchell: 4,338 yards and 32TDs in 1994.
Derek Anderson: 3700 yards and 29 TDs in 2007
Mark Rypien: 3564 yards and 29 TDs (and even won the SB) in 1991
Tommy Maddox (in 13 games): 2800 yards and 20 TDs in 2001
Steve Beurlien for 4436  yards and 36 TDs in 1999

Compared to these 1-hit wonders, Case's stats aren't all that impressive.  But- somehow- you are prescient enough to know that Case will be different from all the rest of these QBs.  In fact, I coulld probably find a REALLY long list of QBs who have had better seasons that Case's this past season... and I'm sure that there would be plenty of QBs on that list that we wouldn't want to be our "franchise" QBs.  But it's obvious that you think your opinion is the only right one... so I'm not going to bother discussing the issue with you anymore.  But feel free to continue to tell everyone how stupid they are for doubting Case.  

Here's my "point" Poiple: would you want any of those guys as a franchise QB?  If yes, then by all means: keep posting that Case is the only answer and that anyone who doesn't agree is an idiot.  If you don't think that any of those QBs are a "franchise" QB, then just admit that Case had a great year- but there's no way to know if he will replicate it or not.  THAT was the original point, to which you said that it can't be considered a "fluke" when a player does it for an entire season.  Here's a list of QBs who did it for a whole season... and, yet, no one would consider them to be "great" QBs.  Case has been mediocre (or worse) his entire career up until last season.  Then he had 1 great season.  If anyone is consulting a crystal ball, it's you: assuming that Case will be at least as good as he was last season- if not better.
I don't know if Cousins will be better or not.  But at least he has a track record of "statistical" success.  

Tell you what: we'll see, won't we?  Someone is going to sign Case next year.  And either he'll be great again (proving that this season was no fluke)... or he'll regress to what he's been in the past... or he'll be somewhere in the middle.  I don't know what's going to happen.  And, therefore, I'm not flooding this site with posts about how I'm right and others are idiots.