Panthers Not Expect To Tag Norwell

can the Vikes afford another free agent OLineman?  we are already carrying some pretty good coin in Reiff and Remmers and I suspect that Norvell will command 4-5 years around that 10-11 mark with about 35 guaranteed?

That is a game changer... I think that needs to be your big money FA signing. Not sure if you could still get Cousins with that.

I wanted Richardson but I think LG would make me even more happy.

Norwell is at the top of my list of FAs for the Vikes.  

@"Canthony" said: That is a game changer... I think that needs to be your big money FA signing. Not sure if you could still get Cousins with that.

I wanted Richardson but I think LG would make me even more happy.

sign Norvell,  draft McGlinchey and kick Remmers into RG... hows that look for you?.... hey keep your hand above the table you prevert. :p

@"JimmyinSD" said: can the Vikes afford another free agent OLineman?  we are already carrying some pretty good coin in Reiff and Remmers and I suspect that Norvell will command 4-5 years around that 10-11 mark with about 35 guaranteed?

Sign Keenum rather than Cousins for about 10 million less a year...free up some more dough when Floyd's situation gets settled...I think it's doable...assuming he's a scheme fit, you go after him and solidify that OL rebuild...now if you get to #30 and both McGlinchy and Bryan are there you have options...

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Canthony" said: That is a game changer... I think that needs to be your big money FA signing. Not sure if you could still get Cousins with that.

I wanted Richardson but I think LG would make me even more happy.

sign Norvell,  draft McGlinchey and kick Remmers into RG... hows that look for you?.... hey keep your hand above the table you prevert. :p

Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

Do they even run a zone blocking scheme? 

@"Canthony" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Canthony" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

They won't pay a guard without tackle versatility $10M+. Guards aren't the type of players you get into bidding wars for.

@"TBro" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Canthony" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

They won't pay a guard without tackle versatility $10M+. Guards aren't the type of players you get into bidding wars for.

What about Steve Hutchinson? That worked out pretty well for us. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

That is craziness.  Ryan Kalil is in the last year of his deal and has a 9.6 mil cap hit.  He has missed 18 games the last two years and said he would retire after 2018.  If they cut him they save 6.875 mil.

Matt Kalil can be cut after 2018 and they save 5.7 mil in cap space but take a 7.2 mil dead money cap hit.

Who thinks Matt Kalil will be worth 10.5 mil in cash and a 12.9 mil cap hit in 2019?

They likely will move on from him too.

But maybe they don't care and that is why they drafted Taylor Moton?

It would be nice to see the Vikings go for Norwell but I disagree with the thought of paying a top guard rather than a top QB.

They can get another guard in the draft or a cheaper free agent like Justin Pugh or Jack Mewhort which both come with injury histories.

Who knows?  Maybe they try to re-sign Brandon Fusco who bounced back last year?

They only have about 20 mil/yr tied up in their OT's and have outs with both after next year.  If they could give Norwell a deal less than Reiff but more than Remmers I could see some sense and have it not really be out of line, nobody else on the OL is making much yet.  If they want to sign Sam/Teddy/Kirk you are going to need very good pass pro on the inside.  Of course Kirk makes the investment less viable.

Put the best OL in front of the QB you can and the success of whichever one you have will be far more likely.  It sure would free up draft capital for a potentialdefensive play maker.

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

That is craziness.  Ryan Kalil is in the last year of his deal and has a 9.6 mil cap hit.  He has missed 18 games the last two years and said he would retire after 2018.  If they cut him they save 6.875 mil.

Matt Kalil can be cut after 2018 and they save 5.7 mil in cap space but take a 7.2 mil dead money cap hit.

Who thinks Matt Kalil will be worth 10.5 mil in cash and a 12.9 mil cap hit in 2019?

They likely will move on from him too.

But maybe they don't care and that is why they drafted Taylor Moton?

It would be nice to see the Vikings go for Norwell but I disagree with the thought of paying a top guard rather than a top QB.

They can get another guard in the draft or a cheaper free agent like Justin Pugh or Jack Mewhort which both come with injury histories.

Who knows?  Maybe they try to re-sign Brandon Fusco who bounced back last year?

My surprise is that they didn't work something out before hand, especially since Ryan Kalil is talking about hanging it up...

@"dadevike" said: Norwell is at the top of my list of FAs for the Vikes.  

if you read other fan boards hes the #1 target on everyones list. 31 teams fans are going to be disapointed

@"AGRforever" said:

@"dadevike" said: Norwell is at the top of my list of FAs for the Vikes.  

if you read other fan boards hes the #1 target on everyones list. 31 teams fans are going to be disapointed

Again, does he even fit the scheme? If he's not coming from a zbs he's not going to seamlessly fit in as many are assuming any more than a CB who is coming from a Cover 2 system.

@"JimmyinSD" said: can the Vikes afford another free agent OLineman?  we are already carrying some pretty good coin in Reiff and Remmers and I suspect that Norvell will command 4-5 years around that 10-11 mark with about 35 guaranteed?

How about we leave Norval to Carolina and take Norwell.