McCarron Wins Airing Of The Grievances

Hmm.... this is certainly going to help soften the FA prices I would think.  Cousins will still get his big deal,  but the rest of the pack is all in the same type of prove it style deal so it should play well for the teams not set on Cousins. 

Happy Festivus, AJ!

The next Glennon for sure.

McCarron has some qualities that teams really like: leadership, takes control of the huddle, played in big games in college. There will be interest for him, not sure how much however. 

"McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil."
Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

As Jimmy noted, this may lower the price of Cousins, especially if a team like Denver or Arizona aims for McCarron instead. If AJ signs with the Browns, I don't think it matters much, because I can't see Cousins choosing Cleveland anyway.

I really hope the Vikings are not interested in McCarron, because IMO he has a ton of red flags and the biggest: Bengals were willing to trade him to a rival within their own division - and their own state. Ever heard of a team trading a player they think is great to a team they will have to face twice a year??

@"Jor-El" said: As Jimmy noted, this may lower the price of Cousins, especially if a team like Denver or Arizona aims for McCarron instead. If AJ signs with the Browns, I don't think it matters much, because I can't see Cousins choosing Cleveland anyway.

I really hope the Vikings are not interested in McCarron, because IMO he has a ton of red flags and the biggest: Bengals were willing to trade him to a rival within their own division - and their own state. Ever heard of a team trading a player they think is great to a team they will have to face twice a year??

I was actually thinking that Cousins price will still be what it is.   He will likely be the prize of FA this year and those guys get their top dollar regardless of if its a bumper crop or not.  I think what this does is dilute the waters a bit for the rest of the guys that will be looked at as "prove it" or "bridge" players like our 3, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzgerald etc.  Lots of 10-15 million dollar guys on the market and only so many openings for them.  It would be interesting though if it did lower the demand for cousins,  but I have my suspicion that there are several teams with 30 million already in the brief case with a little extra in their pockets just waiting for that tamper period to open up...  if they actually wait that long.  Elway needs a win in denver,  and the jets just need something, anything. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Jor-El" said: As Jimmy noted, this may lower the price of Cousins, especially if a team like Denver or Arizona aims for McCarron instead. If AJ signs with the Browns, I don't think it matters much, because I can't see Cousins choosing Cleveland anyway.

I really hope the Vikings are not interested in McCarron, because IMO he has a ton of red flags and the biggest: Bengals were willing to trade him to a rival within their own division - and their own state. Ever heard of a team trading a player they think is great to a team they will have to face twice a year??

I was actually thinking that Cousins price will still be what it is.   He will likely be the prize of FA this year and those guys get their top dollar regardless of if its a bumper crop or not.  I think what this does is dilute the waters a bit for the rest of the guys that will be looked at as "prove it" or "bridge" players like our 3, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzgerald etc.  Lots of 10-15 million dollar guys on the market and only so many openings for them.  It would be interesting though if it did lower the demand for cousins,  but I have my suspicion that there are several teams with 30 million already in the brief case with a little extra in their pockets just waiting for that tamper period to open up...  if they actually wait that long.  Elway needs a win in denver,  and the jets just need something, anything. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

@"pumpf" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

Not until they change their HC

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

Not until they change their HC

so we shouldnt put you down as a hue jackson fan club member?  =)

@"Canthony" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

Not until they change their HC

so we shouldnt put you down as a hue jackson fan club member?  =)

I actually like Hue Jackson.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Canthony" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

Not until they change their HC

so we shouldnt put you down as a hue jackson fan club member?  =)

I actually like Hue Jackson.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!   

@"Canthony" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Canthony" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: "McCarron has a noted admirer in ex-Bengals OC/current Browns coach Hue Jackson, who nearly pulled off a deadline deal for his ex-pupil." Well, at least he has that goin' for him...which is nice. ;)

lets say we dont outbid denver or the jets for Cousins.   having the browns and their mega cap enamored with mccaron and not chasing one of the other guys that we would like to get is actually nice for us.

there was a lot of mocking of the browns when the mccaron deal fell through,  but in hingsight it could end up being a blessing in disguise.  Jackson will possibly get his man and keep all his picks.  the browns are still a bit of a mess,  but they are a mess that looks very much like its a team ready to emerge and at least enter the realm of being competitive,  with the Steelers looking to be about at the end of their run of solid QB play,  the ravens and bungles being the ravens and bungles,   the browns could easily find themselves in the mix for the division crown as early as 2019.

Not until they change their HC

so we shouldnt put you down as a hue jackson fan club member?  =)

I actually like Hue Jackson.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!   

What did I walk in to? lol

I guess any head coach who is 1-31 the last two years and 9-39 overall can't be all bad.  ;)

@"Ralphie" said: I guess any head coach who is 1-31 the last two years and 9-39 overall can't be all bad.  ;)

not having a QB and having the front office that he dealt with makes it darn hard to put much of that at his feet.  Im not defending the guy,  but that franchise is a mess from the top down,  hard to blame the middle man.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: I guess any head coach who is 1-31 the last two years and 9-39 overall can't be all bad.  ;)

not having a QB and having the front office that he dealt with makes it darn hard to put much of that at his feet.  Im not defending the guy,  but that franchise is a mess from the top down,  hard to blame the middle man.

@"Ralphie" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: I guess any head coach who is 1-31 the last two years and 9-39 overall can't be all bad.  ;)

not having a QB and having the front office that he dealt with makes it darn hard to put much of that at his feet.  Im not defending the guy,  but that franchise is a mess from the top down,  hard to blame the middle man.

I get it their organization is a dumpster fire and has been for years, but it's not like they haven't had talent and they lost 6 games by 6 points or less in 2017.  Some of that has to be on the coach.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Ralphie" said: I guess any head coach who is 1-31 the last two years and 9-39 overall can't be all bad.  ;)

not having a QB and having the front office that he dealt with makes it darn hard to put much of that at his feet.  Im not defending the guy,  but that franchise is a mess from the top down,  hard to blame the middle man.

I get it their organization is a dumpster fire and has been for years, but it's not like they haven't had talent and they lost 6 games by 6 points or less in 2017.  Some of that has to be on the coach.

or perhaps its a sign that he has got the team close in spite of not having a QB.  I dont really watch the browns enough to say he is good or not,  but i dont know what a coach could do with no QB and a front office that uses numbers over football sense and an owner that trumps everybody on the advice of a physic and a homeless man.