Fans in Philly - Why is it Allowed
It's like a running joke for 50 years - don't go to Philly and root for another team. When I was there on Sunday, I was largely left alone, but some made comments. They are not tough, they are gaining liquid courage and most would drop with one punch. I never felt for my safety.
I gave Pat Elflein's entire family a ride back to their hotel because they had been treated so badly for wearing their son's jersey, and they were afraid to walk to their hotel. Case Keenum has said that his family was also treated very poorly. Makes you wonder why such a historic city would want to foster this reputation. 2 guys got arrested for punching police horses. Who does that shit?
Here is a video of a Viking fan who says nothing, just walks to the stadium. Imagine your mom being treated like this. Shameful
And, then there is our pregame report. We did it from parking lot M, where we had to walk through lots A-L to get to the Viking tailgates. We risked it, and found much more reasonable fans.
Sigh...the Bring It Home SB hanky would've been a definite purchase...
Thanks Tom! You and Pete and those doing the camera work (I don't know your names but you know who you are) did a wonderful job this year covering our team!! Looking forward to your great work in 2018 and beyond !!
@"prairieghost" said: Sigh...the Bring It Home SB hanky would've been a definite purchase...Thanks Tom! You and Pete and those doing the camera work (I don't know your names but you know who you are) did a wonderful job this year covering our team!! Looking forward to your great work in 2018 and beyond !!
And we own one of only 10 that will ever be made. They were higher quality, but I liked art on the ones in white better. The white was more intimidating when waved by 66,000+ fans.
Brave Viking fans going to a CG in Philly...
My buddy worked in the Eagles front office for a # of years and said he would not recommend it for this or any other game.
Dangerous town, dangerous crowd.
Check this out...
http://m.startribune.com/an-open-letter-from-kentucky-to-the-people-of-minnesota-about-those-eagles-fans/470788223/
To the fans that look no older than 16 years old - "Yeah, I remember my first beer".
Seriously, all those fans look to be under 21, drunk and stupid. Pretty much mostly hammered white young idiots from the streets with a 4th grade education max. I wonder how they treat their parents? Or did their parents teach this behavior? Good God that was awful.
And I can only imagine what its like if your a NY Giant Fan / Dallas Cowboys fan walking in. Probably need a Kevlar vest and full face shield.
I can't see many of these as being ticket buying fans but young idiots looking to get drunk then harass and intimadate the other fans. You would think ownership and city officials would like to tamp this kind of behavior down. More arrests needed to be made.
I was surprised by the whole mask thing...that's a problem IMO.
as if their drunk, emboldened, and annoying fans could be any LESS accountable for their actions.....I know.....LETS TELL THEM TO ALL WEAR MASKS....
"It was the guy in the Wentz jersey wearing a dog mask"
really doesnt narrow down the perp does it?
pepper spray and tasers takes a lot of the air out of their balls
@"Hidalgo" said: pepper spray and tasers takes a lot of the air out if their ballsI would like to do a lot more than that with their fans.
Tom next time try to interview those drunk fans.That would be a highlight.
The NFL doesn't want to call out anything like this as it tarnishes the brand. Like I've said numerous times, the city, the police force and their neanderthal fans revel in being assholes. Its their identity. They think its a 'tough guy' town and that's how you act.
@"StickyBun" said: The NFL doesn't want to call out anything like this as it tarnishes the brand. Like I've said numerous times, the city, the police force and their neanderthal fans revel in being assholes. Its their identity. They think its a 'tough guy' town and that's how you act.Sadly it will take someone getting killed for it to change. I do hope the Police make a record number of arrest's from anyone wearing green at the SB.
Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds.
Yup, I was honestly pondering opening a Twitter account just to tweet these videos to Carson's page and ask him how he feels about it. I can't imagine Carson being proud or supportive of any behavior like that. I can imagine he'd probably issue a very carefully worded response that would serve to not offend that asshole fan base while placating the rest of the league. In the end, I doubt that anything else would happen beyond that. As much as I can imagine that Carson speaking to the fans might actually be acknowledged, I doubt that it would change these assholes. They've been like this for too many years and the league continues to turn a blind eye to it. Goodell could use his NFL czar power to make a change if he wanted, but I'm sure he won't.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds.Little pollyanna today Jimmy? ;)
Somehow I think Wentz is going to become more NE over time than take a stance as you've articulated it. Perhaps my jaded view of human nature, but he's just a young, impressionable 20 some year old.
@"StickyBun" said: The NFL doesn't want to call out anything like this as it tarnishes the brand. Like I've said numerous times, the city, the police force and their neanderthal fans revel in being assholes. Its their identity. They think its a 'tough guy' town and that's how you act.They were really not that tough. A couple of them tried to say something to me as I walked through the parking lots, but when you turn to them, they back right off. They are courageous in numbers and with alcohol. When faced with an actual threat, they cowered and said, "hey, just kidding, but you Minnesota people are just to nice"
@"JimmyinSD" said: Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds.He will have bad games and they will treat him like shit. They have no real loyalty
@"prairieghost" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds.Yup, I was honestly pondering opening a Twitter account just to tweet these videos to Carson's page and ask him how he feels about it. I can't imagine Carson being proud or supportive of any behavior like that. I can imagine he'd probably issue a very carefully worded response that would serve to not offend that asshole fan base while placating the rest of the league. In the end, I doubt that anything else would happen beyond that. As much as I can imagine that Carson speaking to the fans might actually be acknowledged, I doubt that it would change these assholes. They've been like this for too many years and the league continues to turn a blind eye to it. Goodell could use his NFL czar power to make a change if he wanted, but I'm sure he won't.
He wouldn't respond, nor should he. He can't control it, and those players are well aware of it. They get to deal with the fans when they "demand" (not request) attention and signatures. Players tire of that aggressive behavior real quickly
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Being a midwest kid, Carson Wentz has to look at that type of behavior and be as disgusted as we are. I would like to see him as their "star" player be a vocal leader for fan accountability in Philly. If they wont listen to their on field leader, then the league really has to start looking at the issue of fan safety for those attending their events. the very fact that this type of behavior is rampant and ongoing, with no action from the league, says to me that the league has liability if this type of shit is taking place on event grounds. Little pollyanna today Jimmy? ;)Somehow I think Wentz is going to become more NE over time than take a stance as you've articulated it. Perhaps my jaded view of human nature, but he's just a young, impressionable 20 some year old.
he either is or isnt the person he claims to be, if he is truly a vocal Christian leader that he says he is, this is the type of stance a Christian leader would take. this type of behavior makes God sad.
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