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Dalvin Cook

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Great season, its been a GREAT postseason so far (duh) and a huge game Sunday night. Big fun left to bask in. It goes without saying its been awesome and still is. Possible Superbowl participation on deck. Crazy good.

But I'm so stoked to see Dalvin Cook's return next year: he'll take this offense up a notch in 2018. Its comforting to know that, even without Shurmur calling the plays, this offense will be better next year with Cook. 

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#1 · Jan 19, 5:13 AM
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I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.

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#2 · Jan 19, 5:34 AM
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2018 Headline: Dalvin Cook Returns to Already Potent Vikings Line-Up

Beat me to it Sticky...I am hopeful for a 100% return on his part and yah, I'd love to have him vs Philly. 

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#3 · Jan 19, 7:13 AM
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@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
does that hyper aggressive cutting style lead to more knee injuries for those players?  its great to have that kind of talent on the team,  but does the radical running style expose their knees to more chances for injury or is it just a matter of bad luck?
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
Dalvin also has the benefit of the same training staff that brought Peterson back from his ACL tear. Then again, that was Adrian. He was Superman back then.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
does that hyper aggressive cutting style lead to more knee injuries for those players?  its great to have that kind of talent on the team,  but does the radical running style expose their knees to more chances for injury or is it just a matter of bad luck?
You'd have to ask a doctor to get a more detailed answer, but I would say it leads to more injuries. If you look at the RB's who suffer knee injuries is typically the more quick-twitch guys who really plant and drive hard side to side. 
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
does that hyper aggressive cutting style lead to more knee injuries for those players?  its great to have that kind of talent on the team,  but does the radical running style expose their knees to more chances for injury or is it just a matter of bad luck?
You'd have to ask a doctor to get a more detailed answer, but I would say it leads to more injuries. If you look at the RB's who suffer knee injuries is typically the more quick-twitch guys who really plant and drive hard side to side. 
barring genetic defects causing them,  I would have to agree,  Dalvins running style could lead to a shorter career.  So we better enjoy him while he's here.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
does that hyper aggressive cutting style lead to more knee injuries for those players?  its great to have that kind of talent on the team,  but does the radical running style expose their knees to more chances for injury or is it just a matter of bad luck?
You'd have to ask a doctor to get a more detailed answer, but I would say it leads to more injuries. If you look at the RB's who suffer knee injuries is typically the more quick-twitch guys who really plant and drive hard side to side. 
barring genetic defects causing them,  I would have to agree,  Dalvins running style could lead to a shorter career.  So we better enjoy him while he's here.
Jeebus Jimmy, that's pretty somber...I'm still hoping we got a long-term hof'er on our hands!! 
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"dadevike" said: I'm concerned that he will be marginally slower, or not quite as quick, a little less explosive, maybe his cuts while planting with his left leg won't be as sharp, ... I know players return from ACL tears better than they used to, but it is still a serious injury for one who relies on speed and quickness.
For everyone its different, so speculating is tough. I am not terribly worried since there are plenty of positive examples of RB's who survived an ACL tear early in their career. Of course you can find examples of the opposite too. But Le'Veon Bell has survived a slew of knee injuries and has the same aggressive cutting style as Dalvin. 
does that hyper aggressive cutting style lead to more knee injuries for those players?  its great to have that kind of talent on the team,  but does the radical running style expose their knees to more chances for injury or is it just a matter of bad luck?
You'd have to ask a doctor to get a more detailed answer, but I would say it leads to more injuries. If you look at the RB's who suffer knee injuries is typically the more quick-twitch guys who really plant and drive hard side to side. 
barring genetic defects causing them,  I would have to agree,  Dalvins running style could lead to a shorter career.  So we better enjoy him while he's here.
Jeebus Jimmy, that's pretty somber...I'm still hoping we got a long-term hof'er on our hands!! 
Im about not counting eggs as chickens until they are full grown and in the freezer or laying eggs.  doesnt mean I dont enjoy the journey,  i just try not to think about the finish line until we are across it.  sometimes I cheat and look ahead... and as a lifelong Vikefan.. I get punished so I am programmed to try and look short term and to expect the unexpected.
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#10 · Jan 19, 8:19 AM
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A couple things working in Cooks favor IMO.
First it was non contact-so likely no associated damage-the ligament just snapped no outside force to create more damage to the meniscus or surrounding structures(hopefully based on what we've seen and heard).
As for hi career longevity, if he stays relatively healthy he could have a nice long career because he is a complete and well rounded back.  Those are the guys that can overcome some physical decline because they have the savvy and value in all phases of the game that they will be an asset to the offense far longer.
AP's biggest downfall was he got by on his athletic gifts, when they started to slip he had no way to compensate or overcome them and he offers little other value to an offense.

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#11 · Jan 19, 11:00 AM
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Thurman Thomas and Marshall Faulk had long careers... Curtis Martin...these guys remind me of Cook and his running style...I think he'll be 100% back...

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