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Does it really matter who?

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I mean, honestly...does anyone care who gets us to the Super Bowl at QB? This year or next year? Doesn't it just matter that it happens? Keenum, Bradford, Teddy, Mother Goose, who gives a shit? I like Teddy as much as the next fan, but if he goes somewhere else next season, then he does. The team is freaking 13-3 with Keenum; who could have done better? Wins is what this all about. 

And I say this willing to totally get behind Teddy again if that's the route they go in 2018. But, IF....IF the rumors are true about deactivating a healthy Bridgewater to put Bradford in at #2 for this game, then the writing is on the wall. The Vikings have a golden opportunity to play at home all the way to and including the Super Bowl. The time is right now. There's no time for potential hurt feelings, etc., grab the freaking moment by the neck. If the team feels Bradford gives them a better shot of cleaning up after an ineffective/injured Keenum in the game Sunday, then I applaud them. Look what Nick Saban did in the CFB championship game, that took BALLS. Luck favors the bold.

I care about the jersey, not the name on the back. Let's put the guys out there than give the team the best opportunity to win in any circumstance.

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@"Poiple" said: To me Case is a much more seasoned Vet who has a better arm, reads defenses better, has played in this system and played more recently.  I dont think Sam is anyone’s longterm answer as a franchise qb.  Teddy might be ours.   It would be a great story to see Teddy step in and win a superbowl.  It doesnt seem realistic or fair to expect it though
I will give Case the nod in some categories,  but arm is not one  of them.  Teddy IMO has shown a stronger arm and better accuracy over all the types of throws.   Case has had a pretty good year as far as the numbers show,  but he was helped immensely buy his receivers,  not many drops and a quite a few bail outs.  As far as reading defenses... hard to say,  but I think Case has more experience and that has helped him quite a bit this year. 
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#22 · Jan 12, 4:31 PM
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Case is more accurate than Teddy.  

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#23 · Jan 12, 4:58 PM
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@"A1Janitor" said: Case is more accurate than Teddy.  
agree to disagree?
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#24 · Jan 12, 6:19 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: Case is more accurate than Teddy.  
agree to disagree?
Of course.  You are entitled to your opinion.  Just not the facts.  Keenum has a higher career completion %.  And i remember Teddy's lobbing the ball because he drops his elbow.  
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#25 · Jan 12, 6:26 PM
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@"A1Janitor" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: Case is more accurate than Teddy.  
agree to disagree?
Of course.  You are entitled to your opinion.  Just not the facts.  Keenum has a higher career completion %.  And i remember Teddy's lobbing the ball because he drops his elbow.  
which was only one season on the elbow thing and that didnt start until he had been pounded by a sieve of an OL,   and I have said all year  the Keenum has been bailed out quite a bit on his errant passes.  I am going on who can fit the ball into tighter areas and Teddy has shown that ability and Keenum typically looks for guys that are more wide open. .. but if you are a stats guy so be it.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Poiple" said: To me Case is a much more seasoned Vet who has a better arm, reads defenses better, has played in this system and played more recently.  I dont think Sam is anyone’s longterm answer as a franchise qb.  Teddy might be ours.   It would be a great story to see Teddy step in and win a superbowl.  It doesnt seem realistic or fair to expect it though
I will give Case the nod in some categories,  but arm is not one  of them.  Teddy IMO has shown a stronger arm and better accuracy over all the types of throws.   Case has had a pretty good year as far as the numbers show,  but he was helped immensely buy his receivers,  not many drops and a quite a few bail outs.  As far as reading defenses... hard to say,  but I think Case has more experience and that has helped him quite a bit this year. 
LoL,  I meant to say SAM, not Case.  Sorry, distracted by a young grandkid 
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#27 · Jan 12, 7:51 PM
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i dont care who is the QB either.  i just PREFER it to be Betty White, thats all. 

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#28 · Jan 12, 8:06 PM
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@"Caactorvike" said: i dont care who is the QB either.  i just PREFER it to be Betty White, thats all. 
politics aside... IVAR for president!
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@"greediron" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Skodin" said:

If I was willing to accept 4# holding the Lombardi in Purple, I’m good with whomever brings a championship home


That is a GREAT example of what I'm talking about. Well said.


mine isnt to say that the team success doesnt trump my wanting Teddy to succeed.  its a have a cake and eat it too thing for me in this instance but I am always team first.


Totally get that, jimmy. I'm really speaking to the fans that will have a little shine of a big win if Teddy isn't the QB. Or have tried to marginalize a great season by Keenum (MaroonBells) because they are Teddy fanboys. I just don't get that part. Its certainly their right to feel however they'd like, but...I'd take Betty White rolling to her left and firing a 7 yard TD to Diggs to win the game Sunday all day long. It doesn't matter to me who, just that it happens.


That is what I don't get.  Having a different opinion, reading the tale of the tape a bit differently and so you have to call them out and call them names.

I don't care who wins the first SB for us.  Right now, I am hoping Case because that means we sail through with the least amount of drama.  He is our QB for this year. 

Next year?  I will debate that in the offseason. Likely I will be wrong, because I am a Viking fan through and through. 



Because I'm blunt and honest. Both with compliments and with calling someone out. You be your way, I'll be mine. I can call MB out and find another post where I give him a thumbs up. And he has every right to say 'fuck you' to me if he wants to. I don't take it personal, I just call it like I personally see it. You do also, which is cool with me.

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#30 · Jan 13, 10:37 AM
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This is kind of a funny topic because now everyone is like "I want the Super Bowl and next year I could care less". If the Viking do win it'll switch to "which QB can help us win back to back". 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: This is kind of a funny topic because now everyone is like "I want the Super Bowl and next year I could care less". If the Viking do win it'll switch to "which QB can help us win back to back". 
Or somekne will call for RS's head and ask what he has done for us lately.  

Fandom. 

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#32 · Jan 13, 11:20 AM
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Just because Sam has bee activated onto the roster of 53, doesn't mean he will be one of the 46 who will dress tomorrow....y'all might be jumping the gun on this entire debate.

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@"Montana Tom" said: Just because Sam has bee activated onto the roster of 53, doesn't mean he will be one of the 46 who will dress tomorrow....y'all might be jumping the gun on this entire debate.
Why activate him today then?  and lose a TE?
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@"A1Janitor" said:
@"Montana Tom" said: Just because Sam has bee activated onto the roster of 53, doesn't mean he will be one of the 46 who will dress tomorrow....y'all might be jumping the gun on this entire debate.
Why activate him today then?  and lose a TE?
yeah,  i dont see them activating him and then not dressing him.
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@"Montana Tom" said: Just because Sam has bee activated onto the roster of 53, doesn't mean he will be one of the 46 who will dress tomorrow....y'all might be jumping the gun on this entire debate.
Did they have to activate him now or put him on IR for the rest of the season? 

And the TE was just activated while Rudolph wasn't practicing.

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#36 · Jan 13, 12:07 PM
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@"greediron" said:
@"Montana Tom" said: Just because Sam has bee activated onto the roster of 53, doesn't mean he will be one of the 46 who will dress tomorrow....y'all might be jumping the gun on this entire debate.
Did they have to activate him now or put him on IR for the rest of the season? 

And the TE was just activated while Rudolph wasn't practicing.



They had until the day after the NFC championship game to activate him.
I think Zimmer is really messing with the saints. They need to game plan for 3 different QBs and if Peyton has another bountygate in the works, the Vikings are ready.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Skodin" said:

If I was willing to accept 4# holding the Lombardi in Purple, I’m good with whomever brings a championship home


That is a GREAT example of what I'm talking about. Well said.


mine isnt to say that the team success doesnt trump my wanting Teddy to succeed.  its a have a cake and eat it too thing for me in this instance but I am always team first.


Totally get that, jimmy. I'm really speaking to the fans that will have a little shine of a big win if Teddy isn't the QB. Or have tried to marginalize a great season by Keenum (MaroonBells) because they are Teddy fanboys. I just don't get that part. Its certainly their right to feel however they'd like, but...I'd take Betty White rolling to her left and firing a 7 yard TD to Diggs to win the game Sunday all day long. It doesn't matter to me who, just that it happens.

whoa that changes everything... if you can sign Betty White... fuck Teddy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLy4qzV1gL0


How badass are you when Abe Vigoda (RIP) is doing a cameo in your candy bar commercial for you?

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Caactorvike" said: i dont care who is the QB either.  i just PREFER it to be Betty White, thats all. 
politics aside... IVAR for president!
Let me just put my hat in the ring to be part of the campaign team. 
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 @"JimmyinSD" said thats my point,   we dont know if he is ready or not.  all we know is that he isnt above Sam,  who IMO has as many questions regarding his knees and rust and hearing footsteps and all the other crap we've heard about Teddy.    I dont see the huge difference in Sam being away for essentially 4 months and back a week,  vs Teddy being gone for about 14 months but now having been practicing for 3 months.
Teddy has been gone for 14 months.... :3 :3
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@"Geoff Nichols" said: This is kind of a funny topic because now everyone is like "I want the Super Bowl and next year I could care less". If the Viking do win it'll switch to "which QB can help us win back to back". 
Geoff I really don't know who will be back next year. Could be Teddy or Sam with a prove it deal. Could Sloter be our QB in 2 years? Or maybe Keenum will get a deal. I'm sure you know more,or have a better idea than most of us do. But yeah it is kind of funny.
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