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Ronnie Harrison - DB - Crimson TideAL.com's Matt Zenitz reports that Alabama junior S Ronnie Harrison will forego his final season of eligibility to enter the 2018 NFL Draft.

Harrison (6'3/216) was named an All-SEC first-teamer for his work during the 2017 campaign. He logged 74 tackles (4.5 for loss), three sacks and three interceptions for the season. The trio of picks are nothing new -- Harrison has at least two of them in each of his three years in Tuscaloosa. While he's not as much an athletic specimen as fellow S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Harrison is a smart player with plus-instincts and a tough customer against the run. On the side of demerit, Walter Football's Charlie Campbell has been less-than-impressed by his work in man-to-man coverage and sees his best fit at the NFL level coming in a zone scheme. We expect him to be swept off the board on Day 1 this spring, early on Day 2 at the latest.
Harry and the Harrison patrolling the deep secondary...sign me up...

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#1 · Jan 11, 3:15 PM
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Could get harry back there. Your Best Defense: Harry, Harry and Rhodes. Yeah, I could get on board with that. 

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I'll tell you, that CFP Championship Game didn't get nearly enough conversation on this board. It was one of THE BEST football games I have ever seen. Quality of play and players on the field was amazing. So much NFL talent between Bama & UGA, ridiculous. 

Not to stray too far, the guy I fell in love with this year is Da'Ron Payne...I dont know if he projects to 3t or more over the center, but if he's a 3t guy? Giddyup! 

https://sports.yahoo.com/alabama-defensive-stars-minkah-fitzpatrick-daron-payne-heading-nfl-192835781.html

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If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.

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@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.


Agree.  I really like Hill and think he's gotten better and better.  Give him one year as the RT, and I think he'll be ready to play LT in 2019.

Not sure if Reiff is playing hurt lately, but his past few games haven't been great.  

Also -- How about that Aviante Collins guy!  Loved watching him come in and play blocking TE.  Huge dude with great feet.

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@"SmashmouthD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.


Agree.  I really like Hill and think he's gotten better and better.  Give him one year as the RT, and I think he'll be ready to play LT in 2019.

Not sure if Reiff is playing hurt lately, but his past few games haven't been great.  

Also -- How about that Aviante Collins guy!  Loved watching him come in and play blocking TE.  Huge dude with great feet.



Collins is the guy with real upside. Very athletic. But raw. Needs to add some weight. If he can evolve to the point that he's the backup swing OT on next year's team, that would be huge. He needs more playing time in practice with the #2s. Probably not as long framed/limbed at is the typical OT. 

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@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.

I really like Hill a ton. I thought that was a huge move by MN to pluck him from Jacksonville. I think we have our starting 5 for a while. I really like Isidora and he will provide great depth at G. I am really excited but we still need a LT high in the draft this year.

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@"Canthony" said:
@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.

I really like Hill a ton. I thought that was a huge move by MN to pluck him from Jacksonville. I think we have our starting 5 for a while. I really like Isidora and he will provide great depth at G. I am really excited but we still need a LT high in the draft this year.



Hill took that quantum leap of improvement when he played all of those snaps with the number 1s when Reiff was injured all preseason. Night and day almost. Hill is huge: tall and long limbed. Prototypical for OT.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Canthony" said:
@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.

I really like Hill a ton. I thought that was a huge move by MN to pluck him from Jacksonville. I think we have our starting 5 for a while. I really like Isidora and he will provide great depth at G. I am really excited but we still need a LT high in the draft this year.



Hill took that quantum leap of improvement when he played all of those snaps with the number 1s when Reiff was injured all preseason. Night and day almost. Hill is huge: tall and long limbed. Prototypical for OT.

I agree with this. That really helped him also gel with this line as well. Get the feel on how the line works and what their tendencies are. This was virtually an all new line.
I really liked how Hill looked last year as well. I think it is safe to say that we finally got some luck when it came to finding player talent.

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@"StickyBun" said: If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.


Where did you hear that? I agree with you that we're better with Hill outside and Remmers inside, so I'm curious about this...

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@StickyBun said:If the rumors end up being true and Rashod Hill starts at RT Sunday, I think the odds are good that is the team's starter at that position in 2018. IMO, Remmers is a better suited to OG. From what I've read recently, Remmers isn't in love with this line change (with him at guard) but he's doing it begrudgingly.

Might change how things play out in the Draft.Where did you hear that? I agree with you that we're better with Hill outside and Remmers inside, so I'm curious about this...

We may draft a G but I think we have a chance to have our RG be Isidora as well. We need a LT high for sure.

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I personally thing Harrison has some limitations and is a solid 2nd round prospect. He doesn't necessarily fit the bill for what the Vikings look for athletically in their DB's either. But maybe he proves me wrong at the combine. 

If you really want to focus on safeties, Jordan Whitehead would be a better system fit in MN. 

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If the Vikings select a player from Alabama in the 1st round then I hope it will be ...


Da'Ron Payne DT 6'2" 310

Before this season, he was timed at 5.03 after running a 4.93 40 last spring. He also benched pressed 545 pounds.

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@"MarkSP18" said: If the Vikings select a player from Alabama in the 1st round then I hope it will be ...
Da'Ron Payne DT 6'2" 310

Before this season, he was timed at 5.03 after running a 4.93 40 last spring. He also benched pressed 545 pounds.



Hmm...Great minds think alike :)

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I think we'd have to trade up a good 10+ slots for Mr Payne...unless he has some ugly medical checks or tells a doctor to fuck off during his exam...

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@"MarkSP18" said: If the Vikings select a player from Alabama in the 1st round then I hope it will be ...
Da'Ron Payne DT 6'2" 310

Before this season, he was timed at 5.03 after running a 4.93 40 last spring. He also benched pressed 545 pounds.



but how long are his arms?

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MarkSP18" said: If the Vikings select a player from Alabama in the 1st round then I hope it will be ...
Da'Ron Payne DT 6'2" 310

Before this season, he was timed at 5.03 after running a 4.93 40 last spring. He also benched pressed 545 pounds.



but how long are his arms?


That's a good question and one I had not thought about.  :)

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Not to say anything is wrong with Alabama players, but MN has definitely avoided them in past drafts. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: Not to say anything is wrong with Alabama players, but MN has definitely avoided them in past drafts. 
they seem to have a lot of them drafted high but you rarely hear much about them down the road.  is there any stat out there that has busts by college?  some programs just dont seem to make pros even though have decent success in college.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: Not to say anything is wrong with Alabama players, but MN has definitely avoided them in past drafts. 
they seem to have a lot of them drafted high but you rarely hear much about them down the road.  is there any stat out there that has busts by college?  some programs just dont seem to make pros even though have decent success in college.
There is a long documented history of Alabama having durability concerns. Its kind of a chew you up spit you out program. Some teams really hone in on the winning culture like Baltimore. Others avoid them all together since they don't want players with a ton of wear. 
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@"BarrNone55" said: I think we'd have to trade up a good 10+ slots for Mr Payne...unless he has some ugly medical checks or tells a doctor to fuck off during his exam...
Probably so. Especially after his postseason. Just seems like the kind of player that will be a better pro than college player. If we wait, a DT I like later is Harrison Phillips from Stanford. Probably more of a stacker than a penetrator, but in either case he's being criminally underrated in some of the early rankings I've seen. 
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