Green Bay is Seriously Shaking Things Up!
Vikings making the Fudge Packers nervous... B)
Report: Ted Thompson will “transition” to new rolehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/01/report-ted-thompson-will-transition-to-new-role/
Packers fire inside linebackers, defensive line coaches toohttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/01/packers-fire-linebackers-defensive-line-coaches-too/
Report: Dom Capers out in Green Bay
In other news, The Vikings have lost one game in the last 3 months. 3 MONTHS.
well crap. was hoping they would not make any changes !!
My Packer fan buddy is ecstatic. I told him, be careful what you wish for... no guarantees that the new GM and DC will be upgrades over Thompson and Capers. Should be interesting to see who they hire to replace these two.
Big deal...everything they do goes through Rodgers anyway
I think Leslie Frazier would be a good fit for the Packers.
Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position?
Thompson had a nice run, easier with a HOF QB or 2...
They can make all the changes in the world, they need better players is a reason they've lost the division to the Vikings 2 of the last 3 seasons.
Keep running the years off of Rogers Green Bay. Your window gets smaller with each passing season. Time is running out.
@"purplefaithful" said: Thompson had a nice run, easier with a HOF QB or 2...They can make all the changes in the world, they need better players is a reason they've lost the division to the Vikings 2 of the last 3 seasons.
Keep running the years off of Rogers Green Bay. Your window gets smaller with each passing season. Time is running out.
I don’t think their talent is as bad as the coaching has made them appear. First thing they should do is switch to a 4-3 on defense.
@"Riphawkins" said: Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position?I think Zimmer will make a strong effort to hire someone that he's worked with in the past that is familiar with his system. Does Del Rio fit that bill? I think he'd probably be more likely to go to an offensive minded head coach where he would just be given the defense to control as he saw fit.
@"Riphawkins" said: Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position?Here as in MN or GB to backfill The Dom? I'm not sure how McCarthy will want to pivot schematically in GB and if Jack fits that bill or not. We'll find out soon enough.
@"Purplewhizz" said:I don’t think their talent is as bad as the coaching has made them appear. First thing they should do is switch to a 4-3 on defense.
I would disagree on that... the Packers have some serious talent issues at key positions. Damarious Randall (1st round pick) and Quenten Rollins (2nd round pick) haven't developed with any consistency at CB and Kevin King is a rookie. They chose not to keep Casey Hayward (led the league in INTs in 2016 with the Chargers) or Micah Hyde (5 INTs this season with the Bills) from past drafts. They haven't found a pass rusher to replace Clay Matthews who is a shell of his former self and can't stay healthy... they don't have any playmakers along the DL except Mike Daniels... recently drafted Jerel Worthy (2nd round pick) and Datone Jones (1st round pick) have been huge busts.
It's tough to field a good defense when you don't have any good CBs and lack a consistent pass rush. They are pretty solid everywhere else...
@"Wetlander" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:I don’t think their talent is as bad as the coaching has made them appear. First thing they should do is switch to a 4-3 on defense.
I would disagree on that... the Packers have some serious talent issues at key positions. Damarious Randall (1st round pick) and Quenten Rollins (2nd round pick) haven't developed with any consistency at CB and Kevin King is a rookie. They chose not to keep Casey Hayward (led the league in INTs in 2016 with the Chargers) or Micah Hyde (5 INTs this season with the Bills) from past drafts. They haven't found a pass rusher to replace Clay Matthews who is a shell of his former self and can't stay healthy... they don't have any playmakers along the DL except Mike Daniels... recently drafted Jerel Worthy (2nd round pick) and Datone Jones (1st round pick) have been huge busts.
It's tough to field a good defense when you don't have any good CBs and lack a consistent pass rush. They are pretty solid everywhere else...
Thats kind of my point. Those guys havent developed in large part due to coaching. What would the Vikings secondary be like without Zimmer?
@"purplefaithful" said:@"Riphawkins" said: Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position? Here as in MN or GB to backfill The Dom? I'm not sure how McCarthy will want to pivot schematically in GB and if Jack fits that bill or not. We'll find out soon enough.@"purplefaithful" said:Here as inn GB.@"Riphawkins" said: Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position? Here as in MN or GB to backfill The Dom? I'm not sure how McCarthy will want to pivot schematically in GB and if Jack fits that bill or not. We'll find out soon enough.
@"medaille" said:I should have been more specific. It’s a GB thread so I meant do you think he may end up there.@"Riphawkins" said: Anyone think Del Rio ends up here as DC if he doesn’t land another HC position? I think Zimmer will make a strong effort to hire someone that he's worked with in the past that is familiar with his system. Does Del Rio fit that bill? I think he'd probably be more likely to go to an offensive minded head coach where he would just be given the defense to control as he saw fit.
@"Purplewhizz" said:@"Wetlander" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:I don’t think their talent is as bad as the coaching has made them appear. First thing they should do is switch to a 4-3 on defense.
I would disagree on that... the Packers have some serious talent issues at key positions. Damarious Randall (1st round pick) and Quenten Rollins (2nd round pick) haven't developed with any consistency at CB and Kevin King is a rookie. They chose not to keep Casey Hayward (led the league in INTs in 2016 with the Chargers) or Micah Hyde (5 INTs this season with the Bills) from past drafts. They haven't found a pass rusher to replace Clay Matthews who is a shell of his former self and can't stay healthy... they don't have any playmakers along the DL except Mike Daniels... recently drafted Jerel Worthy (2nd round pick) and Datone Jones (1st round pick) have been huge busts.
It's tough to field a good defense when you don't have any good CBs and lack a consistent pass rush. They are pretty solid everywhere else...
Thats kind of my point. Those guys havent developed in large part due to coaching. What would the Vikings secondary be like without Zimmer?
Well, Worthy was traded to the Patriots and didn't last long on their roster. Belicheck and Matty P. are known as defensive gurus and didn't think he was worth keeping on the roster.Datone Jones made it through training camp and preseason before getting cut in the final roster trim down. Apparently Zimmer didn't think he was good enough to beat out Shamar Stephen, Tom Johnson, or rookie Jaleel Johnson.
The point I was trying to make is that a number of early round picks didn't pan out and that seems like more bad drafting than a coaching issue...
@"ThunderGod" said: I think Leslie Frazier would be a good fit for the Packers.So would Hue Jackson! ;)
... & the purge continues on the other side of the ball! B)
The Packers soon will have a new football boss. His primary subordinate apparently is doing what he can to straighten up the workplace before that happens.The Packers, at the behest presumably of coach Mike McCarthy, have fired offensive coordinator Edgar Bennett and quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt (pictured with Mason Crosby), according to ESPN.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/03/packers-dump-a-pair-of-key-offensive-assistants/
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