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SI.com: The Eagles look very beatable

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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/26/philadelphia-eagles-nfl-playoff-picture-instant-replay-week-16-mmqb

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#1 · Dec 26, 4:24 AM
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Weeks ago I said they were paper tigers...now without Wentz, they look to be one and out...

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#2 · Dec 26, 4:55 AM
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I agree and thought the same a few weeks ago.

My question is if the Eagles are one and done do we gain home field advantage if we win and make it to the NFCCG?  Are there other NFC teams who could beat them and own homefield against us?

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#3 · Dec 26, 6:58 AM
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@"Poiple" said: I agree and thought the same a few weeks ago.

My question is if the Eagles are one and done do we gain home field advantage if we win and make it to the NFCCG?  Are there other NFC teams who could beat them and own homefield against us?


Nope, it goes to the next highest seed. So, if the Vikings are the second seed, they would then take over home field advantage for the NFCCG.

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#4 · Dec 26, 7:06 AM
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Only 2 teams in the running for the 2 seed: Minnesota and Carolina. We will lock that up on Sunday. And once Philly is knocked out - probably by the Saints - the Vikes will be the highest remaining seed so they will play all of their games at home.

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#5 · Dec 26, 7:10 AM
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Thanks guys. Ive become a fairly conservative fan given the Vikes track record but with home field advantage, the struggling Eagles and already beating the rest of the top NFC teams, its difficult to not be enthused.  
The one thing I am the most appreciative of is that Zimmer knows both of the AFC top contenders very well from all of his years in Cincy.  It is going to be tough for either the Big Ben or Brady to do something unexpected.  I think Zimmer knows those two teams a lot better than either of them knows the Vikings. Add in home field and I like how things are coming together.

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#6 · Dec 26, 7:23 AM
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Dont know how the Saints would handle January in Philly, but they are playing awfully well right now. Much better than when we played em in September. I'd be very nervous about that game if I were an Eagles fan. 

Unlike us fans, lets just hope the guys are Winter Park are focusing on beating the The Bears...

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#7 · Dec 26, 7:23 AM
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I missed most of the game but caught the last 7 minutes or so.  I can't believe how bad Oakland is.  This is from the article:

Oakland, in eight possessions in the last 20 minutes of the game, went
interception-fumble-punt-missed field
goal-fumble-punt-interception-fumble.

Maybe the field conditions and weather had quite a bit to do with the stats, but yikes, that's beyond bad.  Why'd they get rid of Musgrave again?  What about Carr? He seems to be competent, but not the up and coming superstar QB they hoped.  He looked flat out bad.

 

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#8 · Dec 26, 7:26 AM
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I think the Saints take that game pretty easily. With the emergence of their running game they are going to be tough all the way through the NFCCG game.  

Im glad the Vikes have homefield against them.  Stopping their run and stopping Brees passing game is a tall order for any team.

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@"HappyViking" said: I missed most of the game but caught the last 7 minutes or so.  I can't believe how bad Oakland is.  This is from the article:

Oakland, in eight possessions in the last 20 minutes of the game, went
interception-fumble-punt-missed field
goal-fumble-punt-interception-fumble.

Maybe the field conditions and weather had quite a bit to do with the stats, but yikes, that's beyond bad.  Why'd they get rid of Musgrave again?  What about Carr, he seems to be competent, but not the up and coming superstar QB they hoped.  He looked flat out bad.

 


Oakland and Dallas, probably biggest disappointments in the league? 

Cold does weird s hit to teams as we saw with the GB game and the vikes/seahawks game. Not sure it was that cold in Philly last night, but anything under 40 is probably damn cold when you're coming from Oakland.

I couldnt believe how shit the Oakland OL looked - also a testament to how good Philly's front 4 is.

Thats the match-up that would make me the most nervous having to go there in Jan. Not sure our OL is stout enough to control them up front often enough, and you fall behind? Probably game over.

Their front 4 is at least as good as ours, better against the pass imo. 

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#10 · Dec 26, 7:32 AM
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I was unimpressed with Nick Foles.  I was more unimpressed with Oakland's offense and Carr...but their OL could not hold the Eagles DL, and he was running for his life most of the game.  But Nick Foles is clearly not Carson Wentz.  I cannot see the Eagles making it past their first game in the playoffs against a decent team.

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#11 · Dec 26, 9:03 AM
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@"Montana Tom" said: I was unimpressed with Nick Foles.  I was more unimpressed with Oakland's offense and Carr...but their OL could not hold the Eagles DL, and he was running for his life most of the game.  But Nick Foles is clearly not Carson Wentz.  I cannot see the Eagles making it past their first game in the playoffs against a decent team.


I totally agree with this. Khalil Mack is a scary dude... And he may have caused some of those jitters, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a secondary hold up and continue to cover like ours. They're so disciplined. I don't see the Eagles and Nick Foles getting past Game 1 of the Playoffs. The NFC is absolutely loaded.

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#13 · Dec 26, 10:46 AM
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@"Maple Surple" said: CBS is thinking since Foles sucks, Vijayjay will save the day...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jay-ajayi-might-be-the-biggest-key-to-a-playoff-turnaround-for-struggling-eagles/


So the game plan for the Vikings would likely be to sell out to stop Ajayi and force Foles to beat them. Possible against an average defense. Not this one. Right now I think the Vikings would crush the Eagles, even in Philly. 

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#14 · Dec 26, 11:26 AM
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In that weather from last night after I saw how Case played in Lameblow there's no freaking way I want to play in Philadelphia.

And that's acknowledging that their CBs are very beatable and the Defense is inconsistent and got torched by Old Eli.

Carolina's CBs aint great either but that interior pass rush at home with the crowd noise covered that weakness up.

Philadelphia at home with possible temperature and wind challenges for Keenum could easily lead to a 9-6 type of FG fest. And there's nobody on this Vikings Team I trust less than Darth Forbath.

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#15 · Dec 26, 2:54 PM
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If Vikes cant be #1 seed then the Wentz-less Eagles would definitely be my pick to be the top seed.  

If the Eagles lose first game then we hold home field through out.

If we have to travel somewhere, I would rather it was against the Wentz-less Eagles then any of the other top ranked NFC teams. Would you rather play the Saints in their house?  Or maybe visit the Panthers again?

Since the Viikes lost to the Panthers they just about made #1seed impossible and the way it is playing out is the best possible alternative.

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#16 · Dec 26, 4:41 PM
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Of the current possibilities I'd actually prefer any team at home vs. Case in the cold in Philadelphia even without Wentz.

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#17 · Dec 26, 8:00 PM
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Not sure I really like the idea of Drew Brees nice and comfy inside of US Bank Stadium, the way they are playing right now.

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#18 · Dec 26, 8:08 PM
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For the sake of comparison, it was about 30 degrees for the Philly/Oakland game on Monday. It was single digits in Lambeau. If the Vikings are in the NFC title game in Philly, hopefully it won't be as cold as it was on Saturday in GB.

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#19 · Dec 26, 8:15 PM
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@"Nichelle" said: For the sake of comparison, it was about 30 degrees for the Philly/Oakland game on Monday. It was single digits in Lambeau. If the Vikings are in the NFC title game in Philly, hopefully it won't be as cold as it was on Saturday in GB.
& hopefully the groundskeeper doesn't pass out &  leave the sprinklers on all night...
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#20 · Dec 26, 8:28 PM
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That field was no accident. Minn has a speed advantage on most of the league and the Packers know it.

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