This Just In-Pat Shurmur Is A Good OC
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/262755/pat-shurmurs-invaluable-impact-on-the-vikings-offense-cannot-be-understated
Film after the game...
This is very bittersweet to me because I truly feel he's gone after this year....he's going to get another HC opportunity. Shurmur is excellent, no doubt, but the resurgence of the 0-Line cant be underestimated. Its made his job much easier.
I've heard that Kevin Stefanski would probably replace him as OC on the staff if that happens and that Stefanski is highly capable and well thought of. He's 35 years old and considered one of these young prodigy offensive types and has been with the Vikings a long time, working his way up. I'm sure he'd keep the terminology close to the same and it would be big from a continuity standpoint.
@"StickyBun" said: This is very bittersweet to me because I truly feel he's gone after this year....he's going to get another HC opportunity. Shurmur is excellent, no doubt, but the resurgence of the 0-Line cant be underestimated. Its made his job much easier.I've heard that Kevin Stefanski would probably replace him as OC on the staff if that happens and that Stefanski is highly capable and well thought of. He's 35 years old and considered one of these young prodigy offensive types and has been with the Vikings a long time, working his way up. I'm sure he'd keep the terminology close to the same and it would be big from a continuity standpoint.
Was just going to mention Stefanski as a potential replacement...I'm still hoping Shurmur is happy at OC after a couple bad HC stints in his past...Sparano might be another option...but Stefanski would be my #1 choice..
@"BarrNone55" said:@"StickyBun" said: This is very bittersweet to me because I truly feel he's gone after this year....he's going to get another HC opportunity. Shurmur is excellent, no doubt, but the resurgence of the 0-Line cant be underestimated. Its made his job much easier.I've heard that Kevin Stefanski would probably replace him as OC on the staff if that happens and that Stefanski is highly capable and well thought of. He's 35 years old and considered one of these young prodigy offensive types and has been with the Vikings a long time, working his way up. I'm sure he'd keep the terminology close to the same and it would be big from a continuity standpoint.
Was just going to mention Stefanski as a potential replacement...I'm still hoping Shurmur is happy at OC after a couple bad HC stints in his past...Sparano might be another option...but Stefanski would be my #1 choice..
Interesting part of the article was Sloter's comments: the kid is dialed in and absorbing. He's present. Would love to see him be a part of the Viking's future at QB with some strong play in preseason next year. He's in an ascending organization. Not sure if that happens, but he's physically just what you'd want with a great arm and mobility. Maybe 2019 he'll have the juice to be a #2 with upside for something more.
Sloter did what you'd hope for in the preseason: beat up on a bunch of guys who are now probably on someone's PS or driving for Bite Squad...so much depends on what happens with Case and Teddy...and if Mayfield is sitting there at #32, he'd be hard to bypass...
@"BarrNone55" said: Sloter did what you'd hope for in the preseason: beat up on a bunch of guys who are now probably on someone's PS or driving for Bite Squad...so much depends on what happens with Case and Teddy...and if Mayfield is sitting there at #32, he'd be hard to bypass...Not sure what Minnesota will do in the draft, but I think if they don't take a QB in the first 4-5 rounds, they like Sloter and his potential.
@"StickyBun" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Sloter did what you'd hope for in the preseason: beat up on a bunch of guys who are now probably on someone's PS or driving for Bite Squad...so much depends on what happens with Case and Teddy...and if Mayfield is sitting there at #32, he'd be hard to bypass... Not sure what Minnesota will do in the draft, but I think if they don't take a QB in the first 4-5 rounds, they like Sloter and his potential.I think completing the OL rebuild will be a priority...and there will be several good candidates at #32...might be a top notch S or CB there as well...QB talent could be hard to bypass...3T is as close as we have to a need and there's no one I like this late...
@"BarrNone55" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Sloter did what you'd hope for in the preseason: beat up on a bunch of guys who are now probably on someone's PS or driving for Bite Squad...so much depends on what happens with Case and Teddy...and if Mayfield is sitting there at #32, he'd be hard to bypass... Not sure what Minnesota will do in the draft, but I think if they don't take a QB in the first 4-5 rounds, they like Sloter and his potential.I think completing the OL rebuild will be a priority...and there will be several good candidates at #32...might be a top notch S or CB there as well...QB talent could be hard to bypass...3T is as close as we have to a need and there's no one I like this late...
And as dominant as our defense is, can you imagine how devastating they'd be had, say, Floyd recovered??? He would have been a big contributor there is no doubt about that. It is truly a sad thing that Teddy and Shariff both went down, sad that Sam went down, devastating that Dalvin went down. All 4 of these players would have done amazing things on this team, which only goes to show how balanced and awesome we have become. Case has done an amazing job and more and more I love the guy. He scares me sometimes, but I do love him :) Regardless though I always have wistful feelings where those 4 players are concerned.
I wish the press would shut-up about Shurmur...He's our little secret here in Minny (I wish).
Yup..Floyd would occasionally flash a move I used to call RAMPAGE...he's got a vicious arm over/swim and first step we hadn't seen since Milliard...IIRC, he was the youngest guy in his draft class...TJ has done well enough vs the run, but Floyd was better...him next to Linval in this D is next level stuff...imagine if that nerve starts to fire again and we can put him on the field...Hunter and Griffen would both be in the 15-18 sack range...
While I do think our scheme is excellent, I’m more impressed
by the things that are less tangible. For
a long time now, I’ve had faith in Zimmer to develop guys such that the backups
who come in play at a high level, and the team keeps trucking. I couldn’t say that about our offense. I can say that now. Our starters are playing at a high level,
playing fundamentally sound, disciplined football. Our backups come in and play fundamentally
sound disciplined football without much drop off in our production. During the Turner era, there was way too many
blocking problems, like guys didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing,
and two guys would block no one while 2 defenders would rush the QB
unblocked. That is not disciplined football,
and I don’t see that anymore.
@"purplefaithful" said: I wish the press would shut-up about Shurmur...He's our little secret here in Minny (I wish).
I'm afraid the cat is outta the bag on this one. Unfortunate. His creativity has been unbelievable. It's to the point where if we get into the red zone, I am expecting a touchdown but I have no idea how it's going to happen. Just expecting a pleasant surprise. I'm waiting for a Treadwell TD or maybe Bell or even Reiff. Who knows with Shurmur?
@"dadevike" said:@"purplefaithful" said: I wish the press would shut-up about Shurmur...He's our little secret here in Minny (I wish).I'm afraid the cat is outta the bag on this one. Unfortunate. His creativity has been unbelievable. It's to the point where if we get into the red zone, I am expecting a touchdown but I have no idea how it's going to happen. Just expecting a pleasant surprise. I'm waiting for a Treadwell TD or maybe Bell or even Reiff. Who knows with Shurmur?
Oh man, Treadwell NEEDS a TD. I think it would do wonders for his confidence. That kid needs a TD about as bad as Rodgers needs a new clavicle.
Maybe - I Hope - he is happy being the OC and does not want to be a HC again. He got his taste, it was sour. And we all know that not all great Coordinators are good at being a Head Coach. The league is littered with guys who were amazing OC's and DC's who are now ex HC's - who failed miserably. A mans got to know his limitations, and perhaps, not saying that is 100% the case here, but maybe he is very happy doing what he is doing. A HUGE amount of stress and crap comes from being a HC - he may not want that in his life - he knows what thats like.
@"medaille" said: While I do think our scheme is excellent, I’m more impressed by the things that are less tangible. For a long time now, I’ve had faith in Zimmer to develop guys such that the backups who come in play at a high level, and the team keeps trucking. I couldn’t say that about our offense. I can say that now. Our starters are playing at a high level, playing fundamentally sound, disciplined football. Our backups come in and play fundamentally sound disciplined football without much drop off in our production. During the Turner era, there was way too many blocking problems, like guys didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing, and two guys would block no one while 2 defenders would rush the QB unblocked. That is not disciplined football, and I don’t see that anymore.
Good points. As this article talks about, keeping it simple and doing what you do, do it well. I think Shurmur is a perfect fit with our talent as well. Thielen and Diggs are very detailed in their routes. Our offensive line is a very solid unit.
I guess my only hope is that we make it to the superbowl and Shurmur misses out on the hiring phase.
Money talks. If the Wilfs value him they can pay him enough to keep him happy. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.
I cant imagine what more they could want from the guy.
Hopefully the Vikings take care of this with a title and $$$$...
Several years back, wasn't it Tampa that paid their DC like a head coach to keep him? Seems to me that would make sense. He has job security, since Minnesota loves Zimmer. And, he could wait until a good choice comes up. Not just the first opportunity. At least, that's what I am hoping for...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/21/nfl-distributes-list-of-recommended-head-coaching-candidates/
Edwards and Shurmur both on the list.
@"BarrNone55" said: Hopefully the Vikings take care of this with a title and $$$$...THIS...
I've been preaching from the same hymnal Barr...If he isn't dead-set on HC again, give him an Asst Head Coach title and pay him a s hit ton of $$$
Team is set to win for a while with a young core, excellent stadium and the facilities will be top notch aiding in FA recruiting.
This is a very nice place to be if you like the Midwest.
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