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Man, what's happened in Oakland?

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The Raiders lost 26-15 to Kansas City on Sunday. The game wasn't as close as the score might suggest.
The Raiders are among the most disappointing teams of the year. They're now 6-7 after a number of "experts," myself included, thought they were a Super Bowl contender. I also thought quarterback Derek Carr was going to have a superb year.
I was W-R-O-N-G.
Former Raiders QB Rich Gannon, now working for CBS Sports, put that game—and the Raiders' season—in perfect perspective on NFL Monday QB on the CBS Sports Network:
"Absolutely an embarrassing performance on the part of the Raiders. I mean, they didn't even get off of the bus. That game was over at the half. It's beyond me how you could be unprepared for essentially what was a playoff game.
"They had the chance to be at the top of the division. They laid a big goose egg. Derek Carr was terrible. They didn't run the football. They weren't good on defense. The coaching was bad. It's inexcusable to me. And they've got problems right now in Oakland. And this has been festering for a while."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748673-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-look-out-the-jaguars-are-coming-for-revenge?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#1 · Dec 13, 8:38 PM
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Something is going on. There's been this rumor for most of the year that the offensive line isn't playing well on purpose. Sounds stupid, but it kind of goes to Gannon's point about something 'festering'. 

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#2 · Dec 14, 3:13 AM
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Carr's back is a much bigger issue than people realize. He is surviving off pain killers right now and probably just trying to get through the season.

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#3 · Dec 14, 5:37 AM
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how about, they suck?  A team of a bunch of flashy thugs, that show little consistency week to week. Undisciplined group that only plays well when their high priced OL dominates

Mack, very good player but the annual fellating of this guy is ridiculous. Cooper can be a damn good WR but isnt in the top tier of WRs in this league due to consistency. 

the rest? Crabtree, Lynch, Penn, Irvin, Smith, Cook?  better names than players. Another media darling falls from the ranks

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#4 · Dec 14, 6:34 AM
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Sounds like the HC has lost his locker room..

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#5 · Dec 14, 6:46 AM
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Before the start of the season NFLN went through their schedule to see if they could go undefeated....

i think the "experts" there picked ONE loss

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My gut feeling is that there is a lot of tension between
their very pro BLM OLine and their very religious, very pro America QB.  I didn’t watch this game, but they don’t feel
like a cohesive team.

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@"medaille" said: My gut feeling is that there is a lot of tension between their very pro BLM OLine and their very religious, very pro America QB.  I didn’t watch this game, but they don’t feel like a cohesive team.


Whoa!

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#8 · Dec 14, 7:44 AM
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Kind of a surprise this year, but they have been struggling since they replaced offense coordinator.

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#9 · Dec 14, 8:19 AM
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I think its a combination of things. Carr's health isn't the issue, but his relationship with the coaching staff seems extremely tense. Instead of letting him throw the ball around like last year and the season before they're trying to get him to play smart. That has led to too many conservative play calls, which the personnel isn't designed for. Their young O-coordinator also doesn't seem to understand the rhythm a consistent running game can provide. 

The Raiders could be a team that really turns it around next season. Last year seemed like an anomaly, but this year's team isn't this bad either. 

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@"StickyBun" said: Something is going on. There's been this rumor for most of the year that the offensive line isn't playing well on purpose. Sounds stupid, but it kind of goes to Gannon's point about something 'festering'. 
My thoughts as well.  Not sure what is going on, but it sure looks like team disunity is a big part of their failure.
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@"medaille" said: My gut feeling is that there is a lot of tension between their very pro BLM OLine and their very religious, very pro America QB.  I didn’t watch this game, but they don’t feel like a cohesive team.


You have a link, or just pulling it out your gut?

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@"Bolstad79" said:
@"medaille" said: My gut feeling is that there is a lot of tension between their very pro BLM OLine and their very religious, very pro America QB.  I didn’t watch this game, but they don’t feel like a cohesive team.


You have a link, or just pulling it out your gut?


I don't have too much time to look for links,  This was the top ones on google and it's good enough to get the gist of the matter, but basically after the national anthem protests, Carr was getting pressured and hit a lot more than normal.  On youtube there was videos of the blocking up front on the hits he took, and it looked liked there supposedly excellent OLine was just letting the defenders through on multiple occasions.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/11/07/raiders-dispute-nfl-wifes-claim-that-anthem-protest-clash-led-to-derek-carrs-injury/?utm_term=.9eacc029a4ab
 

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@"medaille" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
@"medaille" said: My gut feeling is that there is a lot of tension between their very pro BLM OLine and their very religious, very pro America QB.  I didn’t watch this game, but they don’t feel like a cohesive team.


You have a link, or just pulling it out your gut?


I don't have too much time to look for links,  This was the top ones on google and it's good enough to get the gist of the matter, but basically after the national anthem protests, Carr was getting pressured and hit a lot more than normal.  On youtube there was videos of the blocking up front on the hits he took, and it looked liked there supposedly excellent OLine was just letting the defenders through on multiple occasions.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/11/07/raiders-dispute-nfl-wifes-claim-that-anthem-protest-clash-led-to-derek-carrs-injury/?utm_term=.9eacc029a4ab
 



Miko Grimes is bat shit crazy.

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Read a comment from Rotoworld...QB's on the Decline Heading into 2018:

Derek Carr, OAK – Different season, same old Derek Carr. His YPA for ’17 is headed towards a 7.0 finish, just like his previous two seasons, and that will land him out of the upper half of the league’s QBs in that key stat for the fourth time in four seasons in the NFL. His 245 yards per game currently ranks 15th in the league, and he’s never finished higher than 14th in that category in his NFL career. Taken as a back-end QB1 in many ’17 fantasy drafts, he’s likely headed for luxury backup status heading into next year.

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