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Making A Better Case

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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/12/5/16723942/vikings-making-a-better-case
Pretty good read...

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#1 · Dec 5, 5:40 AM
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TL;DR

Case + Pat Shurmur + Upgraded Offensive Line + Maturity + Top 5 Defense = Best Play of Career/ Wins

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#2 · Dec 5, 5:48 AM
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Perhaps more than statistics and trendlines, these clips- along with many others- show how Keenum has upped his game as a play-maker. He may not have the cannon to fire a rope 50 yards down the field to a receiver at the back of the endzone for a touchdown, as Favre did memorably in 2009 against the 49ers, but he does have a certain saavy in avoiding sacks, extending plays, and still delivering an accurate throw- all while not making many mistakes with the football. And he’s had some of his best games against the toughest opponents- and on the road. All that suggests not a quarterback playing over his head, but a quarterback coming into his own.
Or at least our best QB since Favre for a stint of time. We'll see how this unfolds. Still 25% of the season in front of us, but its highly likely the most we see of Bridgewater this year is mop-up duty. 
Good for Keenum, we wanted a feel good story and got one. Just not the one we expected. 
RS is now in a position of having to outbid other teams for Keenum in 2018. 

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#3 · Dec 5, 7:10 AM
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How about a three year deal for Case similar to what Glennon got and a one year deal with a team option for Teddy which would mimic what he would have received if we had picked up his 5th year option?

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#4 · Dec 5, 7:20 AM
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Great article.  It shows how Keenum's career arc mirrors other QBs who started out slowly and then improved greatly (Brees, Favre).  But for those who still think Keenum is going to come crashing down to career-backup level (and I'll admit anything is possible), probably the most promising bit of the article was this:

"Obviously the upward trendlines here for Keenum look auspicious for his future performance. Of course any number of things could impact that trend, such as injury or some negative external factor, but absent that, I can’t think of a quarterback having established a significant upward trendline to a high level early in his career, who reversed course immediately following that. In some cases the trend may reach a plateau (as it did for Tarkenton) or really represent a bridge from one level to another (like with Brees). But without some external change or injury, it seems less likely for an upward trend to abruptly reverse, once established and to a high level."


 

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#5 · Dec 5, 9:29 AM
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@"purplefaithful" said:
 all while not making many mistakes with the football. And he’s had some of his best games against the toughest opponents- and on the road.



This is what has impressed me the most.  After getting called out for going off the reservation against Washington, Case has really stepped up his game.  Not making the bad throws, getting better at his progressions and doing it against tough defenses on the road. 

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#6 · Dec 5, 9:54 AM
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The dude was perfect I'm the 2nd half of a game against a Dan Quinn defense.

It's pretty hard to overstate that. They had backup DBs in, but those guys were balling out there.

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#7 · Dec 5, 10:06 AM
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I think Sticky is on target with all the variables that make Case successful.  Outside variables affect statistics and that is why we really don't know where Case is able to take us.  Would Case be able to do what he has done on a different team?  Probably not, it is a combination of everything coming together at the right time, place, etc. for him.  Sticky listed off the variables that have helped Case at this time and place.
 The article does talk about his uncanny ability to sense/see pressure while still watching down field which I think is one of his biggest skills. 
I watched Andy Dalton last night against Pittsburgh.  Andy was under pressure from several Steeler linemen and he started looking for his chance to escape (where was the pressure coming from, where could he step to).  It was only for a second but it was that second that cost him.  I thought at that moment that he was dead and how Case would have still been staring down the field looking for that one place to throw the ball.  It is like he has built in radar and doesn't need to see what is around him.

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#8 · Dec 5, 10:07 AM
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@"ThunderGod" said: The article does talk about his uncanny ability to sense/see pressure while still watching down field which I think is one of his biggest skills. 


It really is uncanny.

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#9 · Dec 5, 11:20 AM
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its easy to keep your eyes down field when you are rarely paying a price for it.   we can expect that our OL will have a bad game sooner or later where the protection will be less than what Case has been getting.  I wonder if he will maintain his composure after taking a few hits/sacks.  If he is able to show a short memory  he really may be a late bloomer and ultimately be a find for us.  

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#10 · Dec 5, 11:25 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said: its easy to keep your eyes down field when you are rarely paying a price for it.   we can expect that our OL will have a bad game sooner or later where the protection will be less than what Case has been getting.  I wonder if he will maintain his composure after taking a few hits/sacks.  If he is able to show a short memory  he really may be a late bloomer and ultimately be a find for us.  
I would say the last 2 or 3 weeks the protection has not played up to the level that it had earlier in the season.  Case has done well under the increased pressure though and has been a huge part of the reason that we've taken so few sacks this year.

I'm guessing Bradford would have had at least double or triple the number of sacks by now.

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#11 · Dec 5, 11:40 AM
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I don't know.  I get this sense that Case is a pretty tough hombre.  He laughs a lot and keeps things light but I bet you would have to beat him up pretty good before you would see him bend.
  He is a real competitor and I think the guys around him sense that. I keep thinking of a guy named Kapp who didn't have all the talent in the world but was a real leader and team guy.

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