How much of Bridgewater do they need to see to get a bead on him?

I would also be curious about the interest elsewhere. How many teams would want to take a shot? If there is an interest, that would be something to consider.

I have to think that Miami would make a real effort to get Teddy back to Florida, given his overall popularity and their QB struggles.  It's going to be a brutal topic after the season, because Case is making a helluva "case" for himself, but we never got to see where Teddy's development had gotten to.

Sam may also be in a far better state than we know about, as we've barely seen glimpses of him for some time.  It's a real mess, as it's not unprecedented for a SB-winning QB to find himself unemployed before he even gets his ring.  I'm glad that the team is seemingly focused on the "now" rather than what's looming ahead.

Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

@"Zanary" said: I have to think that Miami would make a real effort to get Teddy back to Florida, given his overall popularity and their QB struggles.  It's going to be a brutal topic after the season, because Case is making a helluva "case" for himself, but we never got to see where Teddy's development had gotten to.

Sam may also be in a far better state than we know about, as we've barely seen glimpses of him for some time.  It's a real mess, as it's not unprecedented for a SB-winning QB to find himself unemployed before he even gets his ring.  I'm glad that the team is seemingly focused on the "now" rather than what's looming ahead.

Yes and no...Thats the point of my putting this thread-up Z, how much do they need to see of Teddy to make a determination of the kid? I think they are thinking long term.

What might they do if Case doesnt give them that option? And at what point does Keenum become back-up, 1 year guy to we gotta keep him? 

Right now, the Vikings have a MUCH MUCH better take on Teddy than any other team. They get to see him every day at practice and nobody else has seen play him in 2 years. I know practice is not like a live game, but that's all there is of Teddy since his injury. And nobody else has even that much. So I don't believe any team will offer Teddy big money under those circumstances. 

Miami's O-line situation is really bad right now. Pouncy is one play away from being done for his career. Tunsil has been disappointing. Everyone else is very underwhelming. And for whatever reason, Gase loves Cutler. He throws Moore under the bus every chance he gets.  He has no connection to Bridgewater. So I'm not really buying into Miami as a home for Teddy, either.

If Sam is actually getting healthy and TB wants to test FA, I can see letting TB go, signing Sam to a short deal, and signing Case to a longer deal.  Then let them compete for the starter job.  Sloter stays as the developmental QB.

Yeah, I agree that "if" Sam is getting healthy, they may go after him rather than TB.  Both QBs are probably just one leg hit away from ending their careers, I don't see a long-term future in either one anymore.  As much as I like Teddy, I like Bradford even more with his big arm.  I'm betting the coaches feel the same way, but that's a big if regarding Sam getting healthy.

@"Zanary" said: I have to think that Miami would make a real effort to get Teddy back to Florida, given his overall popularity and their QB struggles.  It's going to be a brutal topic after the season, because Case is making a helluva "case" for himself, but we never got to see where Teddy's development had gotten to.

Sam may also be in a far better state than we know about, as we've barely seen glimpses of him for some time.  It's a real mess, as it's not unprecedented for a SB-winning QB to find himself unemployed before he even gets his ring.  I'm glad that the team is seemingly focused on the "now" rather than what's looming ahead.

I’m not sure the Dolphins would take Bridgewater over Tannehill.  Why would they?

@"BarrNone55" said: Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

Only problem with that is if they decide to stay with Case for the playoffs that would give him 2 weeks without  any game action.

It would be great if we have things under control enough by week 17 to start Teddy against the Bears and see how he handles live pressure and getting hit. That's more important to me than seeing how he handles Shurmur's offense, even though I think our current scheme is a better fit for him.  That being said, we have 5 more games left, so if a game gets lopsided one way or the other, then I'd like to see him take some snaps. I don't doubt that he's physically ready, but there's a mental process in learning to trust your body after an injury and it's a big difference going from a controlled situation to a real game.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

Only problem with that is if they decide to stay with Case for the playoffs that would give him 2 weeks without  any game action.

We've got some very win able games after these next 2,  with a couple at home.  I know people think you don't want to mess with what's working,  but unless the front office and coaches have bought into Case as their guy going forward I think that the Bengals game would likely be a good one to target as a potential Teddy tryout.  I would like Case to get the start to keep his routine,  but give Teddy 2 or 3 quarters to shake the rust off and then unless Teddy looks all world it's back to Case for the last 2 games with only seeing Teddy in mop up or in the event of us actually needing a #2. 

 I don't like the idea of taking a whole game away from Case at this point. I just want to see how Teddy handles live fire.  Not to mention,  it was said that Bradford could be back for the playoffs,  if that is true it would be good to find out if Teddy is up for it now instead of during a one and done event.

In my ideal scenario they win the next two critical games and N.O. loses a couple, all but securing a first round bye, by big enough margins that Teddy can get some late snaps even if they are mostly run downs and dump offs.  Then vs Cincinnati at home have Case start the first few series and hand it over to Teddy to run a full offense for at least a half or more.  Have Case play most of each the GB and Chicago games to keep him rolling but get Teddy some 2nd half snaps regardless of the situation.  They could enter the playoffs with Case starting and Teddy hopefully full go if something should go wrong.  They really need N.O. to lose 2 of the next three for this to play out though.

Saints Remaining Games:

@ Rams (3:25 game!) 
Panthers
@ Falcons
Jets
Falcons
@ Bucs

Couple gimmes, but Rams, Panthers and Falcons twice is no cake-walk.

I think Philly has it pretty soft the rest of the way. Maybe 2 losable games, and that's assuming Zeke, Sean Lee, Aldon Smith, and Zack Martin ate all playing for the Cowboys.

Oh the things only viking fans can create when there is too much winning. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

Only problem with that is if they decide to stay with Case for the playoffs that would give him 2 weeks without  any game action.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

Only problem with that is if they decide to stay with Case for the playoffs that would give him 2 weeks without  any game action.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:
Best case scenario, IMO, is we've got home field wrapped up week 17 and we get Teddy a start vs Chicago...that's from the "we need to look at Teddy in 2017" perspective...

Only problem with that is if they decide to stay with Case for the playoffs that would give him 2 weeks without  any game action.

Yah, that's a long lay-off heading into the playoffs. Coaches like their routines too. That's where I keep coming back to no really great, pro-active options - least ones that I can see. Not a terrible place to be as long as you're winning.

I don't think they have to get Teddy isn't a game if it doesn't work itself out naturally. You can see enough in practice to judge whether he is on track or not. But in all likelihood he'll get a shot to play down the stretch at some point. Like others have mentioned, week 17 is a decent chance. If the Vikings are locked into a playoff seed they could let Teddy start the entire 2nd half. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if they get a 2 TD lead at some point they trust Teddy to hold onto it and throw him in for a 4th quarter. 

It comes down to this: if the organization thought Teddy could be a franchise QB before the injury and now he's healthy and looking as strong or stronger than before, than they're just rebooting the plan and he'll be the guy next year. Bridgewater just turned 25 years old 2 weeks ago, he's not near his prime yet. I think the team was ready to commit to Bradford, quite honestly, before this knee deal. No way they commit to Sam now.

@"Geoff Nichols" said: I don't think they have to get Teddy isn't a game if it doesn't work itself out naturally. You can see enough in practice to judge whether he is on track or not. But in all likelihood he'll get a shot to play down the stretch at some point. Like others have mentioned, week 17 is a decent chance. If the Vikings are locked into a playoff seed they could let Teddy start the entire 2nd half. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if they get a 2 TD lead at some point they trust Teddy to hold onto it and throw him in for a 4th quarter. 

So what your are hinting at is that the Vikings would be ready to go to the negotiating table with Teddy without seeing him play this year? Interesting and then I'm probably under-estimating the weight put on practices vs game-time? Ah well, let this dang thing play out...