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14 for 26 - 7th game this year that he couldn't break 35 yards total. Oh, and Cardinals may have realized they need a passing game to have any chance to win.

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#1 · Nov 19, 11:16 PM
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@"HappyViking" said: Yeah AD had a bad game, and is old, slow and should hang it up.  There's this Gurley guy that plays for the Rams that went 15 for 37.  Man, he really went down hill too, but way sooner than AD did.


Don't blame us.  His own coach said he lost trust in AP in the press conference and blames himself for making the call to AP on fourth and 1 where he got stuffed.  

I bet the coaches of the Rams haven't lost trust in Gurley after the Vikings great D stuffed their whole offense. 

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@"A1Janitor" said:
@"HappyViking" said: Yeah AD had a bad game, and is old, slow and should hang it up.  There's this Gurley guy that plays for the Rams that went 15 for 37.  Man, he really went down hill too, but way sooner than AD did.


Don't blame us.  His own coach said he lost trust in AP in the press conference and blames himself for making the call to AP on fourth and 1 where he got stuffed.  

I bet the coaches of the Rams haven't lost trust in Gurley after the Vikings great D stuffed their whole offense. 



So blocking had nothing to do with it, and it was all on AD?  What about Gurley?  Does he just suck, or did the Vikes D dominate the blocking so he didn't have open lanes?

I have a feeling AD's success and failures go with how well the blocking is - the same for any RB.  Murray ran for 95 on 15 carries while Gurley ran for 37 on 15.  Is Murray way better than Gurley?

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#23 · Nov 20, 2:42 PM
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LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 

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@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.

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@"HappyViking" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.



Well said.  I wish him well enough.  He has earn his dislike here, but as you say, at this point in his career, he isn't going to look good without blocking. 

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@"greediron" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.



Well said.  I wish him well enough.  He has earn his dislike here, but as you say, at this point in his career, he isn't going to look good without blocking. 

There isn't a RB in the league that looks good without blocking.  Gurley certainly needed it yesterday... or does he just suck like AD does.  B)

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@"HappyViking" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.



Well said.  I wish him well enough.  He has earn his dislike here, but as you say, at this point in his career, he isn't going to look good without blocking. 

There isn't a RB in the league that looks good without blocking.  Gurley certainly needed it yesterday... or does he just suck like AD does.  B)



nope, Gurley can pick up a blitz and make plays in the passing game....  B)

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.



Well said.  I wish him well enough.  He has earn his dislike here, but as you say, at this point in his career, he isn't going to look good without blocking. 

There isn't a RB in the league that looks good without blocking.  Gurley certainly needed it yesterday... or does he just suck like AD does.  B)



nope, Gurley can pick up a blitz and make plays in the passing game....  B)


I really didn't notice Gurley blocking well at all yesterday.  At least nothing stood out for me.  As for receiving, Gurley had 3 catches for 19 yards while AD had 1 for 16.  Not much of a difference to me.  Looks like they both suck.

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@"HappyViking" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
@"A1Janitor" said: LOL ask the coach!  He said he lost trust in AP.  Maybe he lost trust in his line?  Not ehat he daid though. 
He actually said he lost trust in AD?  You read or heard a quote saying saying that?

Backs need blocking, plain and simple.  When AD does well you guys say "Yeah, but did you see those lanes he ran through?".  Then if the line blocks like shit and don't provide the lanes, you guys get all giddy saying "See, told ya he sucks!".

I think Murray is pretty good, but our line is making him look damn good right now.  I wonder how Murray would look playing for the Vikes last season?

It's obvious AD isn't what he used to be, and I do think he should just retire.  It doesn't make me feel better about him to see him fail.  He's still out there trying to play a game he loves, so why shouldn't he?  I guess I don't hate or dislike him like many Viking fans do. Although, I can understand why some don't like him.



Well said.  I wish him well enough.  He has earn his dislike here, but as you say, at this point in his career, he isn't going to look good without blocking. 

There isn't a RB in the league that looks good without blocking.  Gurley certainly needed it yesterday... or does he just suck like AD does.  B)



You know, it thought that was the problem at New Orleans but they are one of the best rushing teams in the league without him.

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#30 · Nov 20, 7:33 PM
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Upon further review....

"I take all that back I said yesterday," Arians said during a news conference Monday after confirming Blaine Gabbert will remain the starting quarterback for Week 12. "That was a damn good call, and we busted an assignment at the point of attack. That was an easy pickup.

"They did not whoop us up there, we just turned them loose. I take everything I say back."

The Cardinals were down 24-21 with 6:33 left in the fourth quarter when they decided to go for it on fourth-and-1 from their own 35. Adrian Peterson was stopped immediately in his tracks for a 1-yard loss. On the next play, Texans rookie running back D'Onta Foreman then scored on a 34-yard run to give the Texans a 10-point lead.

Arians credited offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin for designing a "hell of play," that didn't work because one of the interior  linemen blocked the "wrong damn guy."

www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000880879/article/bruce-arians-my-play-call-didnt-cost-cardinals-a-win

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I saw he retracted what he said.  At the press conference he said it was a hotrible call and those calls are based on trust and there won't be anymore trust.  

He was just frustrated and upon furher review he saw a missed block.  But that would be my point - the old AP could fight through dragging 5 guys on him.  I guess it could work if everyone does everything as expected. 

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#32 · Nov 20, 9:12 PM
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OK
Let's pretend he gets 1 more yard
& then what ?

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#33 · Nov 20, 9:38 PM
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Maybe bigtd's is right, we should move on.

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#34 · Nov 20, 9:43 PM
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I do get why people are mad at AP and I wouldn't tell anyone how to feel about him.

But I personally hope he does well wherever he's at, so long as he's not playing against us. Hopefully time will heal wounds quickly once he retires and he'll be welcomed back as one of the best Vikings ever, which he is. I look forward to that day and would love to be there for his Ring of Honor halftime moment.

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@"SFVikingFan" said:  And then when he came back, it was obvious that his limitations were hurting the offense and Teddy's development in particular.  Good riddance.  Having RBs that can actually catch, pass protect, and run out of the shotgun has been so refreshing this year.


I remember 2015.  AD led the league in carries, the Vikings ran the ball on 1st down the most of anyone in the league at a ridiculous 67%, and the Vikings avg. yard per play on first down was 32nd... dead bleeping last.  Any DC with an IQ higher than Leslie Frazier knew what was coming on first down.

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@"A1Janitor" said: I saw he retracted what he said.  At the press conference he said it was a hotrible call and those calls are based on trust and there won't be anymore trust.  

He was just frustrated and upon furher review he saw a missed block.  But that would be my point - the old AP could fight through dragging 5 guys on him.  I guess it could work if everyone does everything as expected. 


Kind of defeats the purpose of the need for an HOF back if they don't really have to do anything special,  just run through a hole...and not fumble. 

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There is no need for a HOF back.  Any young guy could do as well as the current AP or better on a fourth and one play call. 

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@"A1Janitor" said: There is no need for a HOF back.  Any young guy could do as well as the current AP or better on a fourth and one play call. 
Exactly, and it's one of the ironic laughs about Peterson's devoted disciples. For years, they argued that he was worth whatever we paid him, whatever else was bad about him, because he was so incredible that he could gain yards all by himself and he made the OL and other players around him look better than they were.

Then he started to suck and his apologists (and his dad and then Peterson himself) started telling us it was the fault of the Vikings'  offensive line. I'm kind of surprised no one on this board has claimed (yet) that if we had kept Peterson, with our 2017 OL he would already have over 2,000 yards.

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