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Wait what? A fake concussion check?

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What was that? Ref wanted Russell Wilson to get looked at. So he goes into the tent and comes right back out without getting looked at. How does that work? 

You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. — Robin Williams

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#1 · Nov 9, 8:49 PM
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Russell decided he didn't have time for that! Crazy.

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#2 · Nov 9, 9:40 PM
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guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 

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@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.

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#4 · Nov 10, 7:41 AM
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Game suspension would put a stop to that.  If you don't get checked out and try to take the field again... you're out for the game.  Easy fix if they are serious about this... then be serious. 

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@"Bezerker88" said: Game suspension would put a stop to that.  If you don't get checked out and try to take the field again... you're out for the game.  Easy fix if they are serious about this... then be serious. 

Loss of draft picks if they were really serious about this...

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.


I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  It's one thing if his coach demands that he undergo the "protocol"... but something completely different if it is mandated by the referee.

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@"pumpf" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.


I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  It's one thing if his coach demands that he undergo the "protocol"... but something completely different if it is mandated by the referee.



because in 15-20 years when he blows his head off and his widow sues the league for compensation the argument cant then be made that he wasnt able to play or wasnt in any condition to be making those decision on his own.  the easiest thing would be for the players fate to be held by the players union in terms of can they play or not... but then the liability of those decisions would be on the players union and not the owners.

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@"pumpf" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.


I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  It's one thing if his coach demands that he undergo the "protocol"... but something completely different if it is mandated by the referee.



Most of us have safety regulations we must adhere to in our jobs. Nothing different with Football. You want a guy running the forklift that come through your warehouse with a load after he fell and had his bell rung? I know I don't. 

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#9 · Nov 10, 12:51 PM
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" I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  "

Because he may have drain bamage ?

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#10 · Nov 10, 1:44 PM
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Well if something happened, they can point to the footage and say he didn't get checked out.

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@"pumpf" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.


I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  It's one thing if his coach demands that he undergo the "protocol"... but something completely different if it is mandated by the referee.



NFL players have never been forced to play football, yet they field a lawsuit against the league because of concussions.  

This was is now protocol.  It's not up to the coach to put his player in jeopardy.

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#12 · Nov 10, 2:35 PM
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@"pumpf" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikeking2" said: guy seemed fine. id be pissed as a fan if the league forced my star qb to sit in a tent and miss a bunch of plays if he was actually ready to play. 


what do you know about concussion? not being a smart ass here,  are you qualified to identify on the fly a concussive hit?  I have suffered several concussions, I have seen my kid through several as well.  I am trained to identify concussive symptoms and I can say that I couldnt necessarily say that a guy is good or not without spending a couple minutes with him and even then I couldnt say yes or no with certainty.  If we are going to see football going forward its going to have moments of player absence as they are cleared.

as a fan are you willing to say that you are putting victory ahead of your teams players future health?  the owners are no longer willing to take this risk and that is why these policies are in place.


I think the key word is "forced".  If Russell is willing to risk his own health, why shouldn't he be able to do so?  It's one thing if his coach demands that he undergo the "protocol"... but something completely different if it is mandated by the referee.



There are some questions that are not even worth asking a person because if they are affected, they're not going to be able to judge they are:

1) Are you concussed?
2) Are you drunk?
3) Are you heat stroked?

And the emotion baggage of #3 on this board is completely intentional.

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#13 · Nov 10, 6:10 PM
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Definitely should get one game suspension for ignoring concussion protocol.  He's the same clown that last year tried a slide popup to see if he could get extra yds.

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