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Profootballtalk.com reports Browns co-owner Dee Haslam went "nuclear" on the team's front office after it nixed Tuesday's failed A.J. McCarron trade. Based on a collection of national and local reports on the topic, it appears as if Browns ownership has taken the side of Hue Jackson over the front office. Jackson spent time with McCarron in Cincinnati and was the driving force behind Tuesday's trade talks. Multiple reports also indicate the front office -- known to be at odds with Jackson -- was the driving force behind the trade not going through. Ownership will ultimately decide the front office's fate. At present, it's not looking good for Sashi Brown, Paul DePodesta, and company. Jackson appears to have won the power struggle, for better or (more likely) worse.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC SportsNov 1 - 9:18 PM
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What a mess. Dee and Jimmy Haslam, both have parents that built successful businesses and then they became involved. Its not like running a football team. Let the front office handle the business, for better or worse. Hire the right people and let them do their job, don't micromanage and create a horrible culture. 

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#2 · Nov 2, 5:47 AM
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Would make a great movie, like Major League except for football...

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#3 · Nov 2, 6:09 AM
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Jeebus, what a hot mess

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#4 · Nov 2, 6:25 AM
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Put the haslam family down with the family that owns the chargers are people that should have their franchises taken away.

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I am of the opinion they were going to overpay for McCarron, but just because I think his potential is limited and Hue Jackson was buying the familiarity of a former player. But no success ever grows out of a coach vs GM vs ownership fight. I'm dubious about Moneyball working in the NFL, but DePodesta has only been there 21 months - it hasn't had a fair shot.

Browns owners are looking for an instant fix.

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Here’s the stat of the week. Quarterback Brock Osweiler will start for the Broncos on Sunday at Philadelphia. The Broncos will pay him $48,437 for his efforts. And the Browns will pay him $895,588.
Of course, that’s what the Browns have been paying him every week, under the $16 million guaranteed salary that Cleveland inherited when accepting Osweiler and a second-round pick from the Texans. After the Browns cut Osweiler, the Broncos signed him to a one-year deal for the six-year minimum salary of $775,000, leaving the Browns on the hook for $15.225 million.

The ascension of Osweiler, who was cut by the Browns after starting multiple preseason games, comes at a time when Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz has been named the NFC offensive player of the month and Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson has been named the AFC offensive player of the month. Which means that someone needs to make a Browns jersey that lists on the back the names of all of the quarterbacks who either were or could have been on the Browns roster, and who went on to thrive elsewhere.
With a big game on Sunday, Osweiler will be added to the list. Either way, the Browns will keep adding $895,588 per week to his bank account.

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#7 · Nov 2, 9:53 AM
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Makes one appreciate the front office we have. Good ownership who lets their GM be the GM, a GM with a very good and improving draft and acquisition record, who lets his coach be a coach. A good coach who has no interest in playing GM. 

Dysfunction begins when those roles blur. 

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#8 · Nov 2, 10:18 AM
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@"Jor-El" said: I am of the opinion they were going to overpay for McCarron, but just because I think his potential is limited and Hue Jackson was buying the familiarity of a former player. But no success ever grows out of a coach vs GM vs ownership fight. I'm dubious about Moneyball working in the NFL, but DePodesta has only been there 21 months - it hasn't had a fair shot.

Browns owners are looking for an instant fix.


again.

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#9 · Nov 2, 11:45 AM
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Lets be honest.  If you're going to Fire Jackson after the season, do you really want him trading for AJ McCarron in the middle of the season?  Regardless of circumstances, the trade doesn't make any sense,  But this seems like such a passive aggressive way to choose not to make the deal.  You think he'd just be able to say, as the GM we're not making that trade.

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@"BarrNone55" said: Here’s the stat of the week. Quarterback Brock Osweiler will start for the Broncos on Sunday at Philadelphia. The Broncos will pay him $48,437 for his efforts. And the Browns will pay him $895,588. Of course, that’s what the Browns have been paying him every week, under the $16 million guaranteed salary that Cleveland inherited when accepting Osweiler and a second-round pick from the Texans. After the Browns cut Osweiler, the Broncos signed him to a one-year deal for the six-year minimum salary of $775,000, leaving the Browns on the hook for $15.225 million.

The ascension of Osweiler, who was cut by the Browns after starting multiple preseason games, comes at a time when Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz has been named the NFC offensive player of the month and Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson has been named the AFC offensive player of the month. Which means that someone needs to make a Browns jersey that lists on the back the names of all of the quarterbacks who either were or could have been on the Browns roster, and who went on to thrive elsewhere.
With a big game on Sunday, Osweiler will be added to the list. Either way, the Browns will keep adding $895,588 per week to his bank account.



....and the sports media heaped all kinds of praise on Cleveland for this 'bold and insightful' move when the Browns got Osweiler. What a joke. One of the biggest knee-jerk emotional writers out there that is so continually wrong on so many takes is Peter King. I actually used to enjoy his work, but the last 4 years he's over the top stupid on so many snap judgments pertaining to the NFL. 

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#11 · Nov 5, 7:30 AM
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Another angle on this: if he is any good, would the Bengals be trading McCarron? It's not like Andy Dalton is setting the league on fire, and is Marv Lewis really safe? How often does a trade like this happen between division rivals? IMO Browns management should be really cautious about a chief divisional rival, which doesn't have a definite franchise QB themselves, peddling a player...

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