If JJM can’t develop touch

Or accuracy

No touch or accuracy doesn't bode well. Too many misses on open receivers, even when he isn't under pressure.

JustInTime wrote:

https://twitter.com/vikingzfanpage/status/2091260699796267066

Shocker 🙄

KOC was right, He should have sat for 3 years.

I just hope for his own sanity and mental health that JJM can stay out of the news for a while...

Just be out of the spotlight and practice on honing his craft....

Unfortunately today isnt going to help that cause.

Hearing it’s a sprained hymen for JJ.

I think the QB competition is still going, despite KOC making his pick. But it's Max vs. JJM for QB3 now.

purplefaithful wrote:

I just hope for his own sanity and mental health that JJM can stay out of the news for a while...
Just be out of the spotlight and practice on honing his craft....
Unfortunately today isnt going to help that cause.

Agree completely. I don't want to overreact too much, but I do think the best thing for him would be to go disappear on a depth chart somewhere for a few years and completely rebuild himself physically, mentally, emotionally. And even then you might not end up with anything. But it might be his only chance. That goal-line out to Price was a gimme that QBs in their 3rd training camp should not miss.

It's got to be so frustrating for KOC. Because JJ's tools are so enticing, you'd much rather see him back there with the game on the line than Wentz, but he can't be counted on to make even the simplest of throws.

Adding insult to injury, we play in Denver next week, where their dickhead of a coach is going to remind us about the 2024 draft.

MaroonBells wrote:

Agree completely. I don't want to overreact too much, but I do think the best thing for him would be to go disappear on a depth chart somewhere for a few years and completely rebuild himself physically, mentally, emotionally. And even then you might not end up with anything. But it might be his only chance. That goal-line out to Price was a gimme that QBs in their 3rd training camp should not miss.
It's got to be so frustrating for KOC. Because JJ's tools are so enticing, you'd much rather see him back there with the game on the line than Wentz, but he can't be counted on to make even the simplest of throws.
Adding insult to injury, we play in Denver next week, where their dickhead of a coach is going to remind us about the 2024 draft.

I dont want to overreact either, but I think it's getting much clearer (for now) the Vikings made the right choice for QB1.

Hope that keeps up for a whole season. 🤞

Man, we might owe the football gods a few pesos;

Darnold in 24 and then they may have given us a do-over in 26.

That shit dont happen often.

Last time I saw anything even close to that was the 49'ers selecting Mr. Irrelevant in 2022.

purplefaithful wrote:

I dont want to overreact either, but I think it's getting much clearer (for now) the Vikings made the right choice for QB1.
Hope that keeps up for a whole season. 🤞
Man, we might owe the football gods plenty;
Darnold in 24 and then they may have given us a do-over in 26.
That shit dont happen often.
Last time I saw anything even close to that was the 49'ers selecting Mr. Irrelevant in 2022.

I want that to happen too, but let's not count our chickens before they hatch lol

Canthony wrote:

I want that to happen too, but let's not count our chickens before they hatch lol

100%

Which is exactly why I used "may" and "might"

It would be very unviking like for them to be kind

Trey Lance went for a 4th.

Use that information as you will.

JustInTime wrote:

Trey Lance went for a 4th.
Use that information as you will.

Yah, no way I even consider moving him now...For that very reason and I still have hope a switch is turned on ala Brees.

MaroonBells wrote:

Adding insult to injury, we play in Denver next week, where their dickhead of a coach is going to remind us about the 2024 draft.

Adding insult to injury...Bo Nix was available at #10 when Kwesi picked JJM.

Nix had a far deeper resume, better passing stats that got better over six years starting in FBS football. It showed up his first two years.

Kwesi REALLY screwed the pooch by taking JJM over Nix.

Montana Tom wrote:

Adding insult to injury...Bo Nix was available at #10 when Kwesi picked JJM.
Nix had a far deeper resume, better passing stats that got better over six years starting in FBS football. It showed up his first two years.
Kwesi REALLY screwed the pooch by taking JJM over Nix.

I think they were more enamored with the traits of JJM vs what Nix brings.. His fit in a KOC downfield/chunk system too.

No love from me for KAM as GM. But the buck stops with KOC on the QB pick imo.

That said, you cant make-up JJM's journey in the NFL so far, and how it has hindered his development.

The reps and experience he's missed is almost unprecedented.

purplefaithful wrote:

I think they were more enamored with the traits of JJM vs what Nix brings.. His fit in a KOC downfield/chunk system too.
No love from me for KAM as GM. But the buck stops with KOC on the QB pick imo.
That said, you cant make-up JJM's journey in the NFL so far, and how it has hindered his development.
The reps and experience he's missed is almost unprecedented.

It was definitely traits, they chose that over any floor. Maturity was perhaps the biggest wiff. Coming back last year, when he showed up so under weight, like he didn't work at rehab. The media crap, "9" and then the timing of having his first kid. Now I can't help but watch him on the sideline when he's not playing, commented about that in another thread. Get the feeling he's sitting by himself Meetings between him and KOC have to be cold right now, not sure a PIP is something that is done in the NFL, but that's the vibe that comes to mind.

purplefaithful wrote:

Yah, no way I even consider moving him now...For that very reason and I still have hope a switch is turned on ala Brees.

Has he shown any improvement? An infinitesimal improvement?

And, he’s dinged again. KO wanted another series for him but he’s dinged yet again.

He makes some excellent high difficulty throws and follows it with poor decision making, timing, and accuracy. It’s infuriating. With that said, he’s still a prospect with great potential. You just keep training him up and hope he “gets it”. It seems like with guys like him, that can come on very fast once they figure it out. There’s zero reason to not keep working with him and many reasons to continue. Today he went 5 of 10 for 81 and a 50 yard bomb. Unfortunately, it would have been great to see him get a lot more time to get into a rhythm, but you can’t do that because people think you’re showcasing him for trade. If I’m the coach, IDGF what anyone thinks. Assuming he’s not injured JJ, JJ gets at least half the next game and Brosmer the rest. Wentz doesn’t need more reps and risk of injury, he’s good to go.

The idea that Brosmer is the guy over JJM is mind numbing. Brosmer got opportunities to throw in 6 regular games last year and has yet to throw a TD in the regular season.

They hitched their wagon to JJ; it’s time to do whatever it takes to get him there during this rookie contract. It’s too bad they didn’t listen to me on Nix - he’s been exactly what I expected.

BigAl99 wrote:

It was definitely traits, they chose that over any floor. Maturity was perhaps the biggest wiff. Coming back last year, when he showed up so under weight, like he didn't work at rehab. The media crap, "9" and then the timing of having his first kid. Now I can't help but watch him on the sideline when he's not playing, commented about that in another thread. Get the feeling he's sitting by himself Meetings between him and KOC have to be cold right now, not sure a PIP is something that is done in the NFL, but that's the vibe that comes to mind.

Hes not off pouting, hes up on the sidelines cheering on his teammates. He has a lot of shortcomings, but good teammate isn't one of them. Hell watching the game today it was Murray that always seemed to be on the bench withdrawn from the game.