Looming QB Decision just got a little more urgent today

Chris Mortensen‏Verified account @mortreport  8m8 minutes ago

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Riphawkins" said: 21 months since Teddy layed regular season real football. If he comes off PUP this week they have 3 weeks to evaluate him before bringing him to active roster. That makes it 22 months. I think its going to take more than that to get him in a game. If things are going along well and the Vikings are winning the division would you upset the chemistry of the team and bring him in around week 12 or 13 just because you think he might be ready? It might derail a good thing they have going on.

Not that late in the year. If things are going well, you stay with it. But if Teddy were ready today ("ready" being a loaded word) I'd put him in tomorrow. He's just a better QB than Keenum. 

@"CLOBIMON" said: Okay, Teddy is a great person but lets not forget that we still had a lot of "hope" going into last season that he was going to continue to improve.  I get a feeling that some are remembering his play as elite level.  In reality Case hasn't played any more poorly than Teddy.  In fact, he currently has a better QBR and rating than Teddy's '15 season and his projected totals for yards, tds and ints are better. 

What I'm saying is that we have no proof that Teddy would be doing much better than Case is had the injury never happened or that he can coming back from it.  Sam came in cold last season and put up numbers last season considerably better than Teddy's.  The team was 31st in passing ypg and passing touchdowns in '15... so I believe there were still questions whether or not he was the guy.  Those questions should be greater now.   

I'm not saying that Teddy was the slam dunk solution at QB, or that he'll return the same guy after the injury. Just that he improved every year and the expectations were high going into 2016. It will be interesting to see what he can do behind a better OL and with a weapon or two. 

A refresher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quphiWtut7Q

@"Riphawkins" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Riphawkins" said: 21 months since Teddy layed regular season real football. If he comes off PUP this week they have 3 weeks to evaluate him before bringing him to active roster. That makes it 22 months. I think its going to take more than that to get him in a game. If things are going along well and the Vikings are winning the division would you upset the chemistry of the team and bring him in around week 12 or 13 just because you think he might be ready? It might derail a good thing they have going on.

Not that late in the year. If things are going well, you stay with it. But if Teddy were ready today ("ready" being a loaded word) I'd put him in tomorrow. He's just a better QB than Keenum. 

But, that is pure fantasy as he isn't ready. Do you sacrifice 2 or 3 games to knock off the rust? I don't think they have that luxury. 

I like that people have optimism that Teddy can come back from such a major injury and be a great playoff caliber quarterback.  I have hope.  Perhaps not as much as I did in the preseason last year though.  I still think some are overconfident in his ability on hope and expectation as opposed to proof.  I remember the criticisms and the early labels of game manager, not strong-armed enough, the typical sub-200 yd and 0 or 1 pass td games.  He made poor throws and decisions as well or no less so than Case.  I'd also argue that last season's line was worse than '15 (similar sack numbers and Bradford was hit a lot - AD led the league in rushing yards in '15 while nobody could run last year).  Again, my point is that while a better team behind him could help him be better, there isn't a lot of proof yet that he can carry a team on his arm.  I'm not saying Case is the answer, but I for one am going to keep cool on the idea that Teddy is the savior.  

Case is a better QB than Flacco, is a better QB than several out there right now, which is good for us being on a team with very good WRs and a top end D. Teddy with this O will be a top 10 QB (some are thinking of the 2nd year him on Norv's O - based around AP with No OL and Wallace and Johnson as our WRs) with the O we have now. If shurmur can keep case a top 10 stats QB doing these things, a legit Teddy will be upper level.  

@"Neptizzle" said: Case is a better QB than Flacco, is a better QB than several out there right now, which is good for us being on a team with very good WRs and a top end D. Teddy with this O will be a top 10 QB (some are thinking of the 2nd year him on Norv's O - based around AP with No OL and Wallace and Johnson as our WRs) with the O we have now. If shurmur can keep case a top 10 stats QB doing these things, a legit Teddy will be upper level.  

But, he has played better than about 14 of the last 17 QB's the Vikings have had.

@"Neptizzle" said: Case is a better QB than Flacco, is a better QB than several out there right now, which is good for us being on a team with very good WRs and a top end D. Teddy with this O will be a top 10 QB (some are thinking of the 2nd year him on Norv's O - based around AP with No OL and Wallace and Johnson as our WRs) with the O we have now. If shurmur can keep case a top 10 stats QB doing these things, a legit Teddy will be upper level.  

Teddy won't be ready for any possible real action until after the bye week: and that will be the earliest. 

@"Jor-El" said:

@"NodakViking" said:

@"TBro" said: With the news from Jay Glazier today that Bradford's injury makes it likely he won't be ready again for the foreseeable future and it could possibly be career ending, and the division race opening up with Rodgers likely out for the rest of the year, I think we need to push all of our QB chips to the center of the table if Teddy is Ready. I have been one of the loudest advocates of not rushing Teddy back, and not burning the final year of his contract. After Keenum's up and down performance today and the division well within our grasp with the way Detroit and Chicago are playing, I have changed my tune. If Teddy looks good during his 3 weeks of evaluation, I say we activate him so he is ready to play after the bye week. I still give the start to Case, but we need an experienced backup and a contingency plan for the playoff push if Case regresses back to his old ways like he usually does.  

I think we have to give Case the same benefit of doubt with all the excuses Sam had about crappy teams he played on.  But I agree if Teddy is 100% and looking back to himself activate him to back up Case until needed to either rally or take over due to injury.  All signs/info points to Teddy by ready sooner rather than later.  Nice pocket ace to have....

Now we just need to avoid further injuries.

I think "give Case the same benefit of doubt with all the excuses Sam had about crappy teams he played on" is upside-down. Bradford was productive last season with a horrible OL and inept running game; he was the BEST player on our offensive unit. Keenum has played with a competent OL, better run production, and good-to-excellent receivers; he is kind of the weakest link. In 5 games, he has been impressive in 1 (Tampa); he played badly in 2 and OK in 2. When other units can carry the game, Keenum is OK to have along for the ride.

Vikings have a big QB conundrum but the schedule might be on their side right now. Next two games should be winnable with Keenum and the bye week follows. So the second half of the season starts in 27 days, and we should hope that's enough time for either Bradford or Bridgewater to be ready to play. 

@"StickyBun" said: Teddy won't be ready for any possible real action until after the bye week: and that will be the earliest. 

Probably won't but to my knowledge nobody knows until he gets some live practices.  Have you heard otherwise?

@"Neptizzle" said: Case is a better QB than Flacco, is a better QB than several out there right now, which is good for us being on a team with very good WRs and a top end D. Teddy with this O will be a top 10 QB (some are thinking of the 2nd year him on Norv's O - based around AP with No OL and Wallace and Johnson as our WRs) with the O we have now. If shurmur can keep case a top 10 stats QB doing these things, a legit Teddy will be upper level.  

From what I've seen in the NFL this year, Case is better than half the NFL.  The kid has impressed me with his mobility and grit...and until yesterday hadn't thrown an INT.  Rapelesberger, Newton and Flacco have thrown 8 each.  Look at the QB crapfest a third of the league have at that position, and we're blessed to have him.
I certainly hope TB comes back as good as new, but I hope they ease him into the spot when he can fire on all cylinders.

It's great news that Teddy passed his physical today. Now we have 3 weeks to see how his knee responses to actual practice. Then we have to make a decision if he goes on the active 53 man roster or he goes on IR. If he goes active then I think they will slowly ease him back in. There is no rush...we don't want to ruin Teddy's career. Zimmer thinks to much of Teddy to do that. It is good to have him back after that devastating injury.