So that hit by Trevathan

I think it was very unfortunate, and he did lead with his helmet, so yes. However, I don't think it was meant to be "dirty" nor was he headhunting. It was just a bad set of circumstances that ended up making it look way worse than Trevathan intended.

If its his first offense (not sure if he has had others or not) he may get a slap on the wrist-fine. it was pretty brutal though. intentional or not. my question is, if he does get a suspension and then appeals, how long will the process take?

Although correctly a penalty, i dont think there was intent. 

whats ironic about all this,   didnt Dix about take the head off a bears receiver early in the game?  nobody is talking about that hit that I am hearing. 
( although I am not listening much to sports talk today)

@"JimmyinSD" said: whats ironic about all this,   didnt Dix about take the head off a bears receiver early in the game?  nobody is talking about that hit that I am hearing.  ( although I am not listening much to sports talk today)

Well Dix is a Packer so there is that. I am hearing all kinds of talk about Trevathan. It was a hit against a Packer so it is being replayed like crazy. I didn't watch the game so I will have to watch the Dix hit. 

It is football with huge men running at each other.  Hits are going to happen.

Adams was struggling for more yards while wrapped up.  If you want to be protected, go down. 

As to the intent and was it dirty?  Really don't think so.  Adams was wrapped up and trying to break the tackle.  So Trevathan has to help bring him down.  But right as he got there, Adams started to go down and that put his head right in the hit zone.  Hard to say a bang bang play like that is dirty.

the biggest issue the league will have is he lead with the crown of the helmet. This is not debatable and against the rules. suspension or just a fine-not sure.   Intent doesnt matter

I didn't see it as particularly dirty, I think seeing his mouthguard flying like that might have made some people cringe. It's a problem for football. It's a violent, brutal sport that they want to make safer. It's a contradiction that will keep being an issue. 

I wondered after the hit if maybe there was some intent to put a good hit in Adams.  I don't mean a dirty hit but just a chance to drill him.  The impression I get from Adams is that he is not dirty but is overly aggressive to get under defenders skin.  He is always scrapping with somebody.  Like the Seahawks game when he pulled the defender down by the face mask.  Maybe Im way off base but I wonder what players around the league think of him and maybe this was just supposed to be a get even hit that turned into what it did.

Players cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. That is the issue. 

@"BrickVike" said: Players cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. That is the issue. 

It is a big issue, but what if he was leading with his shoulder for the guys torso and the player gets pushed back and down.  Suddenly the head is the first to contact.

Straight up, flying at a guy one on one head high is dirty.  tackling a guy from behind that is engaged and struggling isn't.  Too hard to line it up, you risk hitting your own guy and at that point most of the concern is getting the guy down.

I don't debate the crown of the helmet hit being a penalty at all.

I just kind of roll my eyes a bit at how many are saying the guy was down and it was cheap. He certainly wasn't down in my opinion; Adams spun out of a tackle heading towards the inside of the field. As fast as he was "stood up," he kinda churned his body sideways to break another tackle and got blasted. It's not as if he was stood up for seconds and then was hit. There are hundreds of similar wrap-up/bang type collisions all of the time. Dalvin Cook runs through them all of the time...

I don't care if he gets suspended for the type of hit it was; just don't end up framing him as a no good, dirty player. I've seen Sherman blow up WRs that aren't even involved in plays - Burfict blow up RBs that aren't getting the ball "within 5 yards - stuff that's a lot more questionable than a bang/bang collision on a ball-carrier being taken to the ground. Even without the crown hit, Trevathan hits him with the shoulder pad, per say, I think with the momentum he had he still would hit him pretty hard.

@"greediron" said:

@"BrickVike" said: Players cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. That is the issue. 

It is a big issue, but what if he was leading with his shoulder for the guys torso and the player gets pushed back and down.  Suddenly the head is the first to contact.

Straight up, flying at a guy one on one head high is dirty.  tackling a guy from behind that is engaged and struggling isn't.  Too hard to line it up, you risk hitting your own guy and at that point most of the concern is getting the guy down.

@"BlackMagic7" said: I don't debate the crown of the helmet hit being a penalty at all.

I just kind of roll my eyes a bit at how many are saying the guy was down and it was cheap. He certainly wasn't down in my opinion; Adams spun out of a tackle heading towards the inside of the field. As fast as he was "stood up," he kinda churned his body sideways to break another tackle and got blasted. It's not as if he was stood up for seconds and then was hit. There are hundreds of similar wrap-up/bang type collisions all of the time. Dalvin Cook runs through them all of the time...

I don't care if he gets suspended for the type of hit it was; just don't end up framing him as a no good, dirty player. I've seen Sherman blow up WRs that aren't even involved in plays - Burfict blow up RBs that aren't getting the ball "within 5 yards - stuff that's a lot more questionable than a bang/bang collision on a ball-carrier being taken to the ground. Even without the crown hit, Trevathan hits him with the shoulder pad, per say, I think with the momentum he had he still would hit him pretty hard.

i agree with all you are saying.  If there is a suspension it will be for the crown of the helmet hit.  players need to keep their head up.  Lead with the facemask or shoulder. For the record I dont think it was cheap or dirty.  Just a case of bad fundamentals for todays NFL. 

agree, it was bad fundamentals with his head down.  Not arguing that.  Just the whole dirty hit/suspension thing is a bit over the top.  But it is a packer, so there is that.

2 game suspension handed down...I'm sure he'll appeal...

If it was a player on any other team in the NFL (well, except the Patriots that is) there wouldn't be near the "controversy." All of a sudden Travathan is some kind of horrible guy. It is BS. Seems pretty clear to me that it was not intentional. Seems fair to fine him as the resultant hit was leading with the head, but it would be ridiculous to suspend him, IMO.

Danny Trevathan - LB - BearsNFL suspended ILB Danny Trevathan two games for violating player safety rules.

The suspension stems from Trevathan's hit on Davante Adams Thursday night. This was fully expected given Trevathan made clear helmet-to-helmet contact. Trevathan is eligible to return in Week 7 against the Panthers.

Source: Field Yates on Twitter

Eyes up, see what you hit.  Players are taught that day 1 as a youth player.