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2025 NFL Free Agency and Draft: DT

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Like corner, this draft class appears to have good value in the late 1st for DTs. And the thing I've noticed that is unusual about this class is how many BIG guys there are this year, with 5 of the top 8 on one board all weighing in over 320 lbs. That is rare. 

#1 · Jan 23, 6:16 AM
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supafreak84 wrote:

You don't like Grant in that role? I think he's more than just a nose and is athletic enough to play up and down the line, especially in a 3-4

I think he's far too big and offers too little in the way of a pass rush to ever play 5T. I've always felt Grant was more of a two-down nose in the mold of Jordan Davis or Mazi Smith, both of whom have been mild busts. Can he be a 3-down fatty like Vita Vea or Dexter Lawrence? Maybe, but it seems unlikely. 

I will say, though, that the odds of the Vikings taking a nose-only went up after free agency. Before free agency, I would've hated a Grant pick. Now, I can at least see it.

#142 · Mar 24, 9:44 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:

I think he's far too big and offers too little in the way of a pass rush to ever play 5T. I've always felt Grant was more of a two-down nose in the mold of Jordan Davis or Mazi Smith, both of whom have been mild busts. Can he be a 3-down fatty like Vita Vea or Dexter Lawrence? Maybe, but it seems unlikely. 

I will say, though, that the odds of the Vikings taking a nose-only went up after free agency. Before free agency, I would've hated a Grant pick. Now, I can at least see it.

You might be right but I think he's a better player than Jordan Davis or Smith. I'd be pretty happy landing any of those three tackles (Grant, Nolen, Harmon) who might be in play at our pick

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#146 · Mar 25, 8:27 AM
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What is the word on Omarr Norman-Lott. His knee was flagged and could be an on going issue?

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#148 · Mar 26, 6:39 AM
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We need a third JJ. NEED.

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#149 · Mar 26, 7:44 AM
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Oh my...LOL

#150 · Mar 27, 6:26 AM
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Oh my...LOL

He can simultaneously play the A and B gap.

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#151 · Mar 27, 8:14 AM
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He’s moving. But, he won’t see 40 if he doesn’t shed 150 lbs.

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#153 · Mar 28, 1:43 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

Impressive strength, zero doubt. Endurance? Zero. None. Is he even being projected to be drafted?

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I can’t imagine him being drafted. Saw him a few times. You’d have to stash him on the PS and get him to drop 75-100 lbs. I’m not sure your medical staff would sign off on him.

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#154 · Mar 28, 2:00 AM
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I can’t imagine him being drafted. Saw him a few times. You’d have to stash him on the PS and get him to drop 75-100 lbs. I’m not sure your medical staff would sign off on him.

I agree. In 50 years of draft obsession, I'd confidently argue that late-round flyers on the "too small" guys work out over late-round flyers on the "too big" guys by a 2 to 1 margin. I mean Watson isn't just overweight, he's obese.

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#155 · Mar 28, 5:01 AM
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If we have a size target, he pretty much is in range.

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#156 · Mar 28, 6:13 AM
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#157 · Mar 28, 9:18 AM
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Sounds like Ole Miss and Texas A&M were the places to be if you were a defensive lineman last year in college football looking to get paid.

Would be very curious to see how the Vikings would rank the 3 big DT's projected to go right around out pick at #24. I'd be damn happy with any one of them

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#159 · Mar 28, 9:47 AM
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Just my opinion but I think Nolen probably has the most upside out of the big 3 and the most unrefined, but you get him with our coaches and the veterans along our defensive line who show him how to be a Pro and the sky is the limit. I love Grant's athleticism and ability to shed, but he might end up being more of a specialist which I'm fine with. Harmon is damn good now but Nolen probably is the better long term guy if he figures it out. I like the chances of that on the Vikings

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