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after Katrina,  Bush got blasted for the Feds response to the disaster,  yet we have now seen at least 3 major disasters ( I am sure there are many more ) that make the news,  but the Federal response (especially from the white house ) is completely bull shit.  Palestine OH,  the Hawaii fires, and now Helene.  

Biden/Harris are completely hands off, Biden was asked about a federal response to Helene and his comment was they had done a lot,  when pressed for an explanation of why those areas arent receiving federal help, he said "they havent asked for it"  who the fuck is he kidding?  first off the calls for help have been non stop all over social media and not just from private entities,  second, they are the federal govt,  the stick their fucking noses into state and local matters all the time,  why when Americans are hurting the worst does it seem these dip shits can only focus on world issues and completely ignore their own citizens?

Disgusting.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#1 · Oct 2, 12:42 PM
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Well, I won't pretend that I've taken the time to deep-dive in FEMA responses, done comparisons, etc, as of yet, but I can offer 1 partial explanation:

it was seemingly acceptable to blame "Dubya" for all the ills in the world, regardless the source, in the majority of all global media.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#2 · Oct 2, 2:32 PM
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Zanary wrote:
Well, I won't pretend that I've taken the time to deep-dive in FEMA responses, done comparisons, etc, as of yet, but I can offer 1 partial explanation:

it was seemingly acceptable to blame "Dubya" for all the ills in the world, regardless the source, in the majority of all global media.

I promise you, if Trump was in charge right now and the federal response to these disasters was what it has been, it would have been major news leading story for months after each event, but when its team blue... barely makes page 3.

Elon buys Twitter and peoples heads were fucking exploding over it being the end of free speech, the end of democracy, blah blah blah. Soros buys 200 US radio stations and nobody says a damn word. The real threat to democracy isnt Trump, or Musk, or any of the many from the left that have seen the evils and have quit that party, its the media and the people that are controlling the message ( and most of social media )

I would love to hear what Yuri Brezmenov would have to say about how his predictions are turning out.

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Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#3 · Oct 2, 2:38 PM
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Feds say there’s no money left to respond to hurricanes — after FEMA spent $640M on migrants

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/feds-say-theres-no-money-left-to-respond-to-hurricanes-after-fema-used-640-9m-this-year-on-migrants/

Isabella Maria DeLuca

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So far this year, the United States has given:

- $24,400,000,000 to Ukraine.
- $11,300,000,000 to Israel.
- $1,950,000,000 to Ethiopia.
- $1,600,000,000 to Jordan.
- $1,400,000,000 to Egypt.
- $1,100,000,000 to Afghanistan.
- $1,100,000,000 to Somalia.
- $1,000,000,000 to Yemen.
- $987,000,000 to Congo.
- $896,000,000 to Syria.
- $9,000 per illegal immigrant that has entered the U.S.

And Americans who have lost everything to Hurricane Helene will be getting $750, courtesy of FEMA.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#4 · Oct 3, 1:36 PM
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That cost list, as has been discussed on other threads, is misleading, because much of that money is not GIVEN, it's credited, and helps to keep certain portions of our industries rolling. I understand the desire to push propaganda, but that never makes it honorable, right, or anything but spineless disinformation.

You really spit and stomp when the lefties do it, after all...am I right?

(suggested do over)

As far as immigration, FEMA funds, and so forth...yeah, I've called Harris pure junk on the border something like a dozen times here, so I hope she's forced to do most of the groveling for funds reallocation. "Brandon" is unlikely to have the attention span, and effectiveness is extremely important.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#5 · Oct 3, 2:15 PM
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Zanary wrote:
That cost list, as has been discussed on other threads, is misleading, because much of that money is not GIVEN, it's credited, and helps to keep certain portions of our industries rolling. I understand the desire to push propaganda, but that never makes it honorable, right, or anything but spineless disinformation.

You really spit and stomp when the lefties do it, after all...am I right?

(suggested do over)

As far as immigration, FEMA funds, and so forth...yeah, I've called Harris pure junk on the border something like a dozen times here, so I hope she's forced to do most of the groveling for funds reallocation. "Brandon" is unlikely to have the attention span, and effectiveness is extremely important.

its money that could have been used to keep Americans in homes, I dont care what industry its feeding, its American tax money that is being spent on foreign interests and not on American needs.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#6 · Oct 3, 2:50 PM
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Trump needs to win,  and FEMA and HOMELAND need to be major targets for his shrink the govt agency.

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Just received this note from a SpaceX engineer helping on the ground in North Carolina.

@FEMA
is not merely failing to adequately help people in trouble, but is actively blocking citizens who try to help!

“Hey Elon, update here on site of Asheville, NC. We have powered up two large operating bases for choppers to deliver goods into  hands. We’ve deployed 300+ starlinks and outpour is it has saved many lives.

The big issue is FEMA is actively blocking shipments and seizing goods and services locally and locking them away to state they are their own. It’s very real and scary how much they have taken control to stop people helping. We are blocked now on the shipments of new starlinks coming in until we get an escort from the fire dept. but that may not be enough.”
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Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#7 · Oct 4, 12:42 PM
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So before anyone receives FEMA assistance they should provide proof of citizenship?

#8 · Oct 4, 6:34 PM
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How about before anybody recieves any form of federal assistance they should prove legal status?

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#9 · Oct 5, 7:45 AM
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Maybe we could start with...getting rid of more SPINELESS SHITBAG PROPAGANDA!!!

How about some OUTRAGE at actual disinformation/lie campaigns? Oh, wait...that'd be brutal to certain, um, "accuracy challenged" types. This campaign is every bit as gutless and guileless as the ones that hounded Dubya.

"Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery.
Fact:
This is false.

This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language."

https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#10 · Oct 5, 8:01 AM
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Well time will tell, thus far the boots on the ground are telling different tales in the flood area as to FEMAs level of assistance. The same for Hawaii, at least as of a few months ago the feds were claiming hige dollar amounts, but the local level, the people, were not seeing the results. As with most federal programs it likely gets sucked up through the red tape people and those actually needing it will see very little.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#11 · Oct 5, 8:41 AM
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Yep.

Time also tells that echo chamber "news" is gonna cherry pick their reporting to get exactly the response they got.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#12 · Oct 5, 9:20 AM
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So, WOW...the gop is truly being their worst, tinfoil-wrapped selves to go full tinfoil with the Helene tragedy!

Let's break down the stacks of lies from the lying sacks, shall we?

MTG- "Of course they can control the weather!" No joke.
Sunkist sexual assault felon boi- "FEMA is withholding aid from Republicans!"
Elon "my cars never earned money, and now aren't selling" Musk- "they're blocking aid flights! (But check out the porn, now allowed on X!)
Russia/China- "EVERYTHING THEY SAID!!"

All, of course, supported by that lover of any "truth" that drags mourning parents through years of emotional torture, Alex "pure shit human being" Jones.

I'm sure Badger will claim I'm a dem again (and ignore many posts against Biden/Harris/dem policies, as usual) and/or Jimmy will wave the ban threat at me again...

...but, even with the stuttering, lying, dumbass Walz and the vacuous mess Harris doing their press right now...

...they're not saying SHIT THIS STUPID. Anyone want to guess what happens when, as usual, orange-boi and/or his inner circle of idiot loyalists are pressed for actual proof?

We've seen this movie many, many times, now, but they've managed to add an even worse, more shamelessly shitty chapter. Disasters used to be a bipartisan priority, not a chance to lie more loudly.

Who can support this shit? How the hell can they do it? WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO?

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-helene-trump-musk-conspiracy-theories-misinformation-fe81869765d778ac2ff3dc5f9ac18e10

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KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#13 · Oct 5, 3:55 PM
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Oh you poor liberal victim, breaks the rules and then instead of being grateful for repeated chances, you throw it out there like you are some sort of victim in order to try and garner sympathy. Dont worry, like i said last time, next time there wont be any warnings.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#14 · Oct 5, 5:27 PM
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JimmyinSD wrote:
Oh you poor liberal victim,  breaks the rules and then instead of being grateful for repeated chances,  you throw it out there like you are some sort of victim in order to try and garner sympathy.  Dont worry, like i said last time, next time there wont be any warnings.

My chances come from the admin, and your rather uneven approach to this board isn't a secret. If I'm banned, I'm banned...but it'll have more to do with you than me Oh, you poor, triggered conservative snowflake, y'all melt faster than your opposite numbers, nowadays.

I have to wonder...when you gnash your digital teeth at the media, yet continue to quote from shameless echo chamber "sources", and enable others in that hilarious Fauci piss-party elsewhere...

...does the irony even occur? A little?

In any case, good luck banning MTG, who will likely explain that the "weather control" is to clear skies for the "Jewish Space Lasers"...!

Maybe ban orange boi and his latest collection of legal tools for not providing any of the "proof", year after year?

Your candidate's carnival of catastrophe, his bales of bullshit, don't originate with me and won't disappear if you ban me. He'll still be a lying sack of shit, none of the news I've shared comes from anywhere BUT him and his dinks, and if you call that presidential...

...I'm not even in the top 1000 of your problems.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#15 · Oct 5, 8:27 PM
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Uneven...you are still here, if it was about creating an echo chamber you would have been gone long ago, but keep that victim card handy, im sure you will be pulling it again sooner than later.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#16 · Oct 6, 6:19 AM
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JimmyinSD wrote:
Uneven...you are still here,  if it was about creating an echo chamber you would have been gone long ago,  but keep that victim card handy,  im sure you will be pulling it again sooner than later.

Heh...calling you out for your BS seems to have you all salty.

Look, I get it. You're trying to boost dishonesty, pushing a proven liar's lies further; you are actively choosing to spread disinformation. A simple check with the actual sources, hell, with ANYONE outside the orange-crusted assclown club would get quick and real information that (as usual, again, still) the babble is BS and just furthering the divides in this country.

You complain about the media's damage, then actively say the Donald "must get elected"...and push fiction.

Full eithical collapse, and that's not on me.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#17 · Oct 6, 10:52 AM
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Zanary wrote:

Heh...calling you out for your BS seems to have you all salty.

Look, I get it. You're trying to boost dishonesty, pushing a proven liar's lies further; you are actively choosing to spread disinformation. A simple check with the actual sources, hell, with ANYONE outside the orange-crusted assclown club would get quick and real information that (as usual, again, still) the babble is BS and just furthering the divides in this country.

You complain about the media's damage, then actively say the Donald "must get elected"...and push fiction.

Full eithical collapse, and that's not on me.

You're right, you wouldnt be accused of having ethics.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#18 · Oct 6, 1:44 PM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

You're right,  you wouldnt be accused of having ethics.

You show zero capacity to judge in that matter.

What's scary is that, even as the NC and Georgia governors actively deny the "no word or help from Biden/Harris" lies and that there's now at least a dozen outlets, several pretty neutral and at least a couple right leaning, that are listing the direct fictions (one that you insisted on throwing out, yourself) and their counter-facts, there's some sick rationalizations being made for letting the petulant filth monger use a swath of tragedy to lie towards his eternal attention agenda.

The truth is literally out there, pretty much front page news, but the desire to avoid and ignore it...that's the bigger, tragic story.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

#19 · Oct 7, 12:10 AM
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They are lies because your source says so, gotcha, if you agree with it, its true. There have been good people that are not Trump people that have come out and spoke about the poor responses from the feds under Biden to disasters, and the apparent general lack of give a shit from the president himself, but your "sources" say otherwise so rant on.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#20 · Oct 7, 6:21 AM
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At the end, but this lady is likely a Trump supporter so its probably false.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/RUAYymujGYvh4Jeb/

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

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