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Reichard = money

Montana Tom
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Isn't it a different feeling with Reichard kicking?
Instead of going into a FG attempt (regardless of the distance) thinking "hey, maybe he'll make it, we have about a 4 in 5 chance on some days", it's a different feeling of confidence.
I'm out of market and can't watch todays game against the Eagles live, but following it on ESPN Gamecast.

I'm optimistic for BFlo's defense and I don't have enough time in the saddle watching Darnold to have confidence in him...that will come in time.

But with Reichard's foot, I think that's probably good enough for an additional 3 wins this season.

#1 · Aug 24, 1:30 PM
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Being a Bama guy and watching him in college, I was over the moon we got him on the roster...

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#2 · Aug 24, 1:39 PM
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Montana Tom wrote:
Isn't it a different feeling with Reichard kicking? Instead of going into a FG attempt (regardless of the distance) thinking "hey, maybe he'll make it, we have about a 4 in 5 chance on some days", it's a different feeling of confidence. I'm out of market and can't watch todays game against the Eagles live, but following it on ESPN Gamecast.

I'm optimistic for BFlo's defense and I don't have enough time in the saddle watching Darnold to have confidence in him...that will come in time.

But with Reichard's foot, I think that's probably good enough for an additional 3 wins this season.


3 wins?  lol.  I don’t think so.

#3 · Aug 24, 1:44 PM
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8+3=11

#4 · Aug 24, 1:45 PM
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I saw Joseph miss a FG for the fudge on NFL network highlights. I smiled. :D

SKOL VIKINGS :P

#5 · Aug 24, 9:44 PM
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Reichard: Taken with kickback pick #203 from Jets in McCarthy trade
LDR: Taken with kickback pick #232 from Texans in trade up from #42 to #23.

It would be something if 2 guys taken with throw-in picks became rookie contributors.

#6 · Aug 24, 11:55 PM
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They say you should never spend a draft pick on a kicker. Maybe this is the exception. Time will tell.

#7 · Aug 25, 8:44 AM
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comet52 wrote:
They say you should never spend a draft pick on a kicker. Maybe this is the exception. Time will tell.

They are dumb, kickers are often among the highest scoring players on a team it would be dumb to not draft one in the later rounds if you have a need and there is a talent available.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#8 · Aug 25, 9:05 AM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

They are dumb, kickers are often among the highest scoring players on a team it would be dumb to not draft one in the later rounds if you have a need and there is a talent available.

UDFA kickers and drafted kickers are indistinguishable over the long run. It's better to spend your draft picks on other positions where more value is likely to be found.

#9 · Aug 25, 9:43 AM
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RS_Express wrote:
Reichard: Taken with kickback pick #203 from Jets in McCarthy trade LDR: Taken with kickback pick #232 from Texans in trade up from #42 to #23.

It would be something if 2 guys taken with throw-in picks became rookie contributors.

That's a very good catch!

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#10 · Aug 25, 11:44 AM
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Let's not jinx this one too.

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#11 · Aug 25, 11:59 AM
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comet52 wrote:

UDFA kickers and drafted kickers are indistinguishable over the long run. It's better to spend your draft picks on other positions where more value is likely to be found.

If someone want to do the math at all positions taken in the later rounds im sure you will find similar statistical data, but apply logic, if you need a kicker, why not draft the best one availabe instead of hoping you can convince one that your town is in his best interest? Also why wait and pick through the left overs when you can take the cream of the crop vs a flyer on a some other position that you will likely just try and stash on your practice squad?

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#12 · Aug 25, 12:29 PM
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TheWinterSKOLdier wrote:
Let's not jinx this one too.


Dont worry, fans dont buy kickers jerseys.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#13 · Aug 25, 12:31 PM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

Dont worry,  fans dont buy kickers jerseys.

Hmmmm, is that a dare?

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#14 · Aug 25, 12:35 PM
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TheWinterSKOLdier wrote:

Hmmmm, is that a dare?

Nope, just a safe bet. Can probably count on 1 hand the number of kicker/punter jerseys ive seen at games not worn by kickers punters or their families.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#15 · Aug 25, 4:40 PM
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Bottom line is he went 4/4 (one from 57) and put up 14 points.

Draft whoever, whenever, Buy whatever jersey you want - If the kid is clutch, can put up points and win games, let him tally.

#16 · Aug 25, 5:02 PM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

If someone want to do the math at all positions taken in the later rounds im sure you will find similar statistical data, but apply logic, if you need a kicker, why not draft the best one availabe instead of hoping you can convince one that your town is in his best interest? Also why wait and pick through the left overs when you can take the cream of the crop vs a flyer on a some other position that you will likely just try and stash on your practice squad?

The logic says that teams can't locate the best kicker available, because the drafted and undrafted kickers hit at the same rate. This isn't true of all positions. You're saying the team *can* locate the best kicker available because Vikings drafting outperforms the norm. I'd say based on the last few years we are seriously underperforming the norms.

I'm happy they appear to have gotten lucky with Reichard. It's very Vikings that your best draft pick would be a kicker (even going back to Daniel Carlson who idiot Zim cut) and your db selections all suck and wash out for years on end.

edited Aug 26, 2024 9:48 AM
#17 · Aug 26, 9:47 AM
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comet52 wrote:

The logic says that teams can't locate the best kicker available, because the drafted and undrafted kickers hit at the same rate. This isn't true of all positions. You're saying the team *can* locate the best kicker available because Vikings drafting outperforms the norm. I'd say based on the last few years we are seriously underperforming the norms.

I'm happy they appear to have gotten lucky with Reichard. It's very Vikings that your best draft pick would be a kicker (even going back to Daniel Carlson who idiot Zim cut) and your db selections all suck and wash out for years on end.

Do you want the 30th DB off the board, or do you want to take a shot on the first kicker to come off the board? who is more likely to hit? Yes there is always a chance of a drafted kicker failing and UFA kicker making a team, but if you are doing the picking ( or anybody putting some effort into this thing ) would you really rather go to the kiddy pond for a player that will certainly be needed on the roster ( starting kicker ) vs a flyer on a player that may, in most instances, be a practice squad guy? I am taking the Kicker, if there is a guy in college that looks like he can play on sundays, and I only have 1 roster spot for that position, I want to have the first choice and not be hittin up the rummage sales.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#18 · Aug 26, 10:24 AM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

They are dumb,  kickers are often among the highest scoring players on a team it would be dumb to not draft one in the later rounds if you have a need and there is a talent available.

Going back to Fred Cox (inventor of Nerf football!), yes the kicker is often the highest scoring player on any NFL team.
Take a look at the top four of all time:
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NAME PTS
A. Vinatieri
2,673

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2 M. Andersen
2,544

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3 G. Anderson
2,434

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4 J. Hanson
2,150

#19 · Aug 26, 10:51 AM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

Do you want the 30th DB off the board,  or do you want to take a shot on the first kicker to come off the board?  who is more likely to hit?  Yes there is always a chance of a drafted kicker failing and UFA kicker making a team,  but if you are doing the picking ( or anybody putting some effort into this thing ) would you really rather go to the kiddy pond for a player that will certainly be needed on the roster  ( starting kicker ) vs a flyer on a player that may, in most instances,  be a practice squad guy?  I am taking the Kicker,  if there is a guy in college that looks like he can play on sundays,  and I only have 1 roster spot for that position,  I want to have the first choice and not be hittin up the rummage sales.

Montana Tom wrote:

Going back to Fred Cox (inventor of Nerf football!), yes the kicker is often the highest scoring player on any NFL team.
Take a look at the top four of all time:
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NAME PTS
A. Vinatieri
2,673

[font='Google Sans', Roboto, Arial, sans-serif]
2 M. Andersen
2,544

[font='Google Sans', Roboto, Arial, sans-serif]
3 G. Anderson
2,434

[font='Google Sans', Roboto, Arial, sans-serif]
4 J. Hanson
2,150

In fairness those 4 kickers all had 23 years plus in the league so more time to accrue those points so not an apples to apples comparison

#20 · Aug 27, 4:29 PM
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G.Anderson should have had 2437

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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